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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Pathological self-reference changes the semantics of the same finite string.
Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2024 14:13:06 +0300
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On 2024-08-31 12:26:15 +0000, olcott said:

> On 8/30/2024 8:22 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2024-08-30 12:57:49 +0000, olcott said:
>> 
>>> On 8/30/2024 3:11 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2024-08-29 17:53:44 +0000, olcott said:
>>>> 
>>>>> I just proved that the basic notion of finite strings
>>>>> having unique meanings independently of their context
>>>>> is incorrect.
>>>> 
>>>> The context is the halting problem.
>>> 
>>> The behavior of
>>> the directly executed DDD and executed HHH
>>> is different from the behavior of
>>> the emulated DDD and the emulated HHH
>> 
>> The correct behaviour is the computation that the user wants to
>> ask about. If the input string specifies a different behaviour
>> then the input string is worng, not the behaviour.
>> 
> 
> int sum(int x, int y) { return x + y; }
> And in the exact same way Bill wants to get the
> sum of 5+6 from sum(3,2).

If Bill wants to get the sum of 5 + 6 then there are two possibilites:
either you give him a tool that can give him the sum and instrunctions
of use of that tool; or you don't, in which case Bill may ask someone
else.

-- 
Mikko