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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python <python@invalid.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: [SR and synchronization] Cognitive Dissonances and Mental Blockage Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2024 14:33:34 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 53 Message-ID: <vb1muu$1g52c$1@dont-email.me> References: <v9q6eu$1tlm9$1@dont-email.me> <liduroFtbroU2@mid.individual.net> <vah9hs$2c43u$1@dont-email.me> <lj56luFe0luU3@mid.individual.net> <M4vxPZKxPU6U7NDCGNWCGCM0lRc@jntp> <ljahm9F9dfdU2@mid.individual.net> <vapd5l$3tffr$1@dont-email.me> <ljd51mFl74gU4@mid.individual.net> <vas655$e2la$2@dont-email.me> <ljfq00F34jeU2@mid.individual.net> <vauhkb$ubrj$1@dont-email.me> <ljigtvFfkpfU5@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 14:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cd5eeb723706b42c21b8c5eabd3eb886"; logging-data="1578060"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+/H4EXfEKandVqAM99tJHt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/WGZ3FVtuEcfBcYq9H1nhAN9Vpc= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <ljigtvFfkpfU5@mid.individual.net> Bytes: 3227 Le 01/09/2024 à 08:47, Thomas Heger a écrit : > Am Samstag000031, 31.08.2024 um 09:44 schrieb Athel Cornish-Bowden: >> On 2024-08-31 06:03:20 +0000, Thomas Heger said: >> >>> >>> [ … ] >>> >>> This 'relativity of simultaneity' is based on observations by an >>> observer in the middle between A and B. >>> >>> So, Einstein used this setting >> >> One of your lies? >> >>> and related time the observations of an observer in the middle. >>> > No, not really... > > Many textbooks about relativity use the picture of a train with one > observer on the banks of the track and one within the train. > > These observers are usually placed in the middle between two > simultaneous events at both ends of the train. > > Now the man on the bank has kind of special mirror, which allow him to > see both flashes at the same time. > > Then relativity of simultaneity is explained as different observations > on the bank and in the train. Right (somewhat). So, definitely, this scheme is about illustrating the relativity of simultaneity, NOT clocks synchronization. > But I would require to remove the delay, caused by the finite speed of > light, what would make both observations equal. > > And as far as I call tell, Einstein used the picture from above, because > he made no attempts to remove the delay. NO ! As far as YOU can tell (if you were an honest person) YOU KNOW that the delay is taken into account : t_B = t'_A - (AB)/c (it *is* removed). > His concept would allow to synchronize clocks, too, but only two clocks > at a time. NO. Einstein wrote EXPLICITLY that the relation "being synchronized" is symmetric, reflexive and transitive. This means that it can be generalized to an arbitrary number of clocks. STOP LYING THOMAS! > [snip demented nonsense]