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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Instead scopes Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 01:56:13 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <vb22qu$1hles$2@dont-email.me> References: <vakogj$316hg$1@dont-email.me> <4vtrcjpl9sp0lurrtf3ldcmhm58de156oo@4ax.com> <val7f8$33hu3$1@dont-email.me> <8f2tcj1832r0m6872hvp1fcrv8hsf3chsh@4ax.com> <vam90i$3bn2f$1@dont-email.me> <gjeucj5a7skeruudj8qcujc1f9b9t9o26r@4ax.com> <vanf8s$3h5er$1@dont-email.me> <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com> <vap20i$1s5cl$1@solani.org> <8dv0djhj73b0ejudpkahnojgjk30i9rrbv@4ax.com> <je01dj177m9p0q25en4k2jm8u0bsj07t2j@4ax.com> <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me> <vaq762$1ssg1$1@solani.org> <vb163a$1dt9b$1@dont-email.me> <vb1hrd$1ver2$1@solani.org> <vb1job$1fp20$1@dont-email.me> <vb1ne7$1via7$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 17:56:15 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="59b9f3d1b956b02e9ff8653ca02a0cfb"; logging-data="1627612"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+IjuGxBmmd+8ZuX6f9mY167ad2GKCpGec=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:DRm+E4APJKvBCRe/UltSfTkdpyg= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <vb1ne7$1via7$1@solani.org> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 240901-6, 1/9/2024), Outbound message Bytes: 4217 On 1/09/2024 10:41 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: > On a sunny day (Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:38:47 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman > <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb1job$1fp20$1@dont-email.me>: > >> On 1/09/2024 9:06 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:46 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman >>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb163a$1dt9b$1@dont-email.me>: >>> >>>> On 30/08/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:43:39 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman >>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me>: <snip> >> Explosion isn't quite the right concept. The universe is pictured as >> starting off very small, very dense, and expanding rapidly, but it >> created the space it expanded into as it expanded. > > Only in the imagination of mathematicians who are starting as kids to try to do a divide by nothing (zero) > and then create infinities such as black's holes. You've got that backwards. Black holes are entirely finite, because they contain enough mass to close space back in on itself. > Tip: there are no infinities in nature, something always will give way. With black holes it's the curvature of space-time. > Same with Ohm's law, 1 V in zero Ohm gves infinte curent , no it does not. > Understand electrons, without electrons Ohms law is useless. Georg Ohm published his law in 1827, 70 years before J J Thompson discovered the electron. It works just as well for other charge carriers. > Without a mechanism onestoines babble is useless By which you mean that you can't understand it. > Without onestine's babble things become fun. > Without Ohm's law and with electrons things become fun. Ask any ten year-old. >>> Albert's is as dumb as is electricity without electrons. > >> Neither CERN nor ITER is designed to go anywhere > > Right. they are job creation programs for Albert's parrots. Neither CERN nor ITER have much to do within Einstein's interests. CERN is about nuclear physics, which has moved on quite a way from Einstein's insights, and ITER is about getting nuclear fusion to work, which is even less dependent on Einstein's insights - it does depend on E=MC^2, but once that had been used to explain the mass defect in elements heavier than hydrogen, Einstein didn't have any real involvement. The popular press made a lot of fuss about Einstein, but Bohr, Dirac, Heisenberg, Schroedinger, Lorentz Planck and Pauli were all in much the same class. -- Bill Sloman, Sydney