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From: Kestrel Clayton <richZIG.e.clayZIGton@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Phillip Johnson wiki
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On 31-Aug-24 17:34, x wrote:
> On 8/31/24 14:17, Kestrel Clayton wrote:
>> On 31-Aug-24 16:36, x wrote:
>>> On 8/28/24 18:16, RonO wrote:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_E._Johnson
>>>>
>>>> Earlier this month I noted that someone had remove the Johnson 
>>>> capitulation quote from the Johnson wiki.  There seems to be no 
>>>> valid reason for removing the quote, and Athel claimed that he had 
>>>> emailed the editor that made the edit to see what was going on.  I 
>>>> guess nothing has come of the request.
>>>>
>>>> The quote actually brings closure to the entire wiki entry of which 
>>>> a major part is about Johnson's participation in the intelligent 
>>>> design creationist scam.
>>>>
>>>> There is absolutely no doubt that Phillip Johnson wanted ID taught 
>>>> in the public schools.  He had made it part of his Wedge strategy.  
>>>> It was one of the 5 years goals listed in the Wedge document, but 
>>>> 20/20 hindsight indicates that Johnson never fully understood the 
>>>> science, and did not understand that the ID perps never had any 
>>>> legitimate ID science worth teaching in the public schools.
>>>>
>>>> The Phillip Johnson wiki has the claim that Johnson did not 
>>>> understand scientific reasoning "In 1993 the ASA's Perspectives on 
>>>> Science and Christian Faith published a review of Darwin on Trial by 
>>>> Nancey Murphy, an associate professor of Christian philosophy at 
>>>> Fuller Theological Seminary, who described Johnson's arguments as 
>>>> "dogmatic and unconvincing", primarily because "he does not 
>>>> adequately understand scientific reasoning.""  Johnson had been 
>>>> convinced by the other ID perps that the ID science existed, and 
>>>> could be taught in the public schools.
>>>>
>>>> Johnson got others involved in the ID scam.  Most notably then 
>>>> Senator Santorum.  Johnson supposedly wrote the draft of the IDiotic 
>>>> "amendment" to the no child left behind legislation that was 
>>>> submitted by Santorum and ended up in the appendix of that 
>>>> legislation.  Both Santorum and Johnson claimed that the inclusion 
>>>> of the "amendment" supported teaching intelligent design in the 
>>>> public schools.
>>>>
>>>> By 2002 most of the other ID perps at the Discovery Institute likely 
>>>> understood that they had nothing worth teaching as ID science in the 
>>>> public schools, so when Ohio hit the fan and the ID perps were 
>>>> invited to give their dog and pony show to the Ohio State School 
>>>> board the ID perps decided to start running a bait and switch scam 
>>>> where they would just use ID as bait, but only give the rubes an 
>>>> obfuscation and denial swtich scam that the ID perps would tell the 
>>>> creationist rubes had nothing to do with ID.  It does not look like 
>>>> the ID perps bothered to inform Santorum and Johnson of what they 
>>>> planned to do because both Johnson and Santorum came out in support 
>>>> of teaching ID in the public schools in Ohio before the bait and 
>>>> switch went down.
>>>>
>>>> Johnson put up the Santorum editorial on his ARN blog as the bait 
>>>> and switch was going down in Ohio.  There is no reason why Johnson 
>>>> would hang Santorum, out to dry like that if he knew that the bait 
>>>> and switch scam was going to start to go down, and no reason for 
>>>> Santorum to have written the opinion piece if he knew that the bait 
>>>> and switch was going down.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.arn.org/docs/ohio/washtimes_santorum031402.htm
>>>>
>>>> QUOTE:
>>>> "I hate your opinions, but I would die to defend your right to express
>>>> them." This famous quote by the 18th-century philosopher Voltaire
>>>> applies to the debate currently raging in Ohio. The Board of Education
>>>> is discussing whether to include alternate theories of evolution in the
>>>> classroom. Some board members however, are opposed to Voltaire's 
>>>> defense
>>>> of rational inquiry and intellectual tolerance. They are seeking to
>>>> prohibit different theories other than Darwinism, from being taught to
>>>> students. This threatens freedom of thought and academic excellence.
>>>>
>>>> Today, the Board of Education will discuss a proposal to insert
>>>> "intelligent design" alongside evolution in the state's new teaching
>>>> standards.
>>>> END QUOTE:
>>>>
>>>> QUOTE:
>>>> At the beginning of the year, President Bush signed into law the "No
>>>> Child Left Behind" bill. The new law includes a science education
>>>> provision where Congress states that "where topics are taught that may
>>>> generate controversy (such as biological evolution), the curriculum
>>>> should help students to understand the full range of scientific views
>>>> that exist." If the Education Board of Ohio does not include 
>>>> intelligent
>>>> design in the new teaching standards, many students will be denied a
>>>> first-rate science education. Many will be left behind.
>>>>
>>>> Rick Santorum is a Republican member of the United States Senate from
>>>> Pennsylvania.
>>>>
>>>> © 2002 News World Communications. All rights reserved. International
>>>> copyright secured.
>>>> File Date: 3.14.02
>>>> END QUOTE:
>>>>
>>>> So neither Santorum nor Johnson likely knew of the strategy shift 
>>>> for the ID scam.  After Ohio 2002 the ID perps only used the teach 
>>>> ID scam as bait, and never delivered any ID science to any 
>>>> creationist rubes that wanted to teach it.
>>>>
>>>> You could still download the teach ID scam booklet from a Discovery 
>>>> Institute web site when Dover hit the fan, but the bait and switch 
>>>> had gone down in every case for the previous 3 years after Ohio.
>>>>
>>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20040921022045/http://www.discovery.org/ 
>>>> scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=58
>>>>
>>>> QUOTE:
>>>> 9. Conclusion
>>>>       Local school boards and state education officials are 
>>>> frequently pressured to avoid teaching the controversy regarding 
>>>> biological origins. Indeed, many groups, such as the National 
>>>> Academy of Sciences, go so far as to deny the existence of any 
>>>> genuine scientific controversy about the issue.(162) Nevertheless, 
>>>> teachers should be reassured that they have the right to expose 
>>>> their students to the problems as well as the appeal of Darwinian 
>>>> theory. Moreover, as the previous discussion demonstrates, school 
>>>> boards have the authority to permit, and even encourage, teaching 
>>>> about design theory as an alternative to Darwinian evolution--and 
>>>> this includes the use of textbooks such as Of Pandas and People that 
>>>> present evidence for the theory of intelligent design.
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