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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: OT Politics Re: Three Body Problem Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2024 19:21:01 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <vb2st3$1lpla$1@dont-email.me> References: <va0c7p$30u2h$1@dont-email.me> <lge9cjhe5g68iokifshc92qd9h6rh6emml@4ax.com> <va2udf$3gr1g$1@dont-email.me> <gvbgcj1uo1mlmalmvtern68ubsu4ngal8p@4ax.com> <va9g12$r3a0$1@dont-email.me> <q0chcjdsgao14sb3joh95kcv9u0qb6o9if@4ax.com> <vadcph$1fq7s$1@dont-email.me> <vadkfh$1hvr7$1@epsilon3.eternal-september.org> <lijmcjpri12qri0tegvll87j7aqri3r4vu@4ax.com> <vag8aa$23fn8$1@dont-email.me> <tr8pcjlddtvuc33njg9o6jhcge6idlj0r7@4ax.com> <vaif8j$2i9nd$1@dont-email.me> <5428djlrjs2f5go01coosacjapf9lmb907@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 01:21:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8674baa754846c1122f9e17ed1bfafee"; logging-data="1762986"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19c3mJOJBGS8GhmxVBltETN" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:qvx6i/Hu78Wc2pWPXtoDcnNLFAo= In-Reply-To: <5428djlrjs2f5go01coosacjapf9lmb907@4ax.com> Bytes: 3249 The Horny Goat wrote: > On Mon, 26 Aug 2024 13:50:10 -0400, William Hyde > <wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Once I realized that in some states people can vote in the primary of >> the other party (Nixon encouraged republicans to vote in democratic >> primaries for McGovern), I lost all confidence in the primary system. >> >> Mind you, our method of selecting potential members of parliament is >> even worse. > > How so? In Canada you actually have to join the party of your choice > in order to vote in what in the US would be a primary. Or, for $10 and a bottle of cheap booze you can agree to become a paid member of some party or other, go to a nomination meeting, vote as requested, then go back to the street to enjoy your booze. Or, you can be bused in by a German crook to vote for delegates who will vote for his preferred bought and paid for party leader. Or, you can be a foreign student drafted by officials of your country to vote for the candidate of your choice in a nomination meeting, despite not being a citizen. Or, not being a citizen, you can run for MPP, be elected, and become a cabinet member in a government dedicated to destroying the country. All of this has been in the news. Some recently. Nobody should be allowed to vote in a nomination meeting who is not (a) A citizen (b) A paid member of the party for at least a year. That wouldn't eliminate all the abuses but it is easily implemented and would render the system less laughably corruptible. But our major parties don't want it. It would handicap their ability to impose preferred candidates on us. William Hyde