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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: Instead scopes
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 16:54:18 +1000
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On 2/09/2024 12:34 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
> On a sunny day (Mon, 2 Sep 2024 01:56:13 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb22qu$1hles$2@dont-email.me>:
> 
>> On 1/09/2024 10:41 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>> On a sunny day (Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:38:47 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb1job$1fp20$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> On 1/09/2024 9:06 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>> On a sunny day (Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:46 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb163a$1dt9b$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 30/08/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:43:39 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>>>>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> Explosion isn't quite the right concept. The universe is pictured as
>>>> starting off very small, very dense, and expanding rapidly, but it
>>>> created the space it expanded into  as it expanded.
>>>
>>> Only in the imagination of mathematicians who are starting as kids to try to do a divide by nothing (zero)
>>> and then create infinities such as black's holes.
>>
>> You've got that backwards. Black holes are entirely finite, because they
>> contain enough mass to close space back in  on itself.
> 
> Sound like shit talk.

Which is to say you don't understand it, and resent having your 
ignorance highlighted

> In a Le Sage system there is a point where all LS particles are intercepted.

Pity about all the other defects in the Le Sage model.

>>> Tip: there are no infinities in nature, something always will give way.
>>
>> With black holes it's the curvature of space-time.
> 
> Space and time are not curved, matter is less compressed near a big mass that intercepts some
> LS particles, making the pendulum longer and clocks slowing down.

That would be relevant is the Le Sage model could work. It can't.

Gravitational lensing demonstrates that space-tine is curved in the 
vicinity of any mass - you need a lot of mass to get an observable 
curvature,

The first big test of that prediction was made during the 1919 eclipse 
of the sun.

https://earthsky.org/human-world/may-29-1919-solar-eclipse-einstein-relativity/

There have been plenty of others since then.

> Same limits apply
> 
> It is simple.

If you ignore most of the data.

<snipped more ill-informed nonsense.>

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney