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From: Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Instead scopes
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 10:37:23 GMT
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On a sunny day (Mon, 2 Sep 2024 16:54:18 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb3neq$1scn0$2@dont-email.me>:

>On 2/09/2024 12:34 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>> On a sunny day (Mon, 2 Sep 2024 01:56:13 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb22qu$1hles$2@dont-email.me>:
>> 
>>> On 1/09/2024 10:41 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>> On a sunny day (Sun, 1 Sep 2024 21:38:47 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb1job$1fp20$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/09/2024 9:06 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>> On a sunny day (Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:46 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>>>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vb163a$1dt9b$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 30/08/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote:
>>>>>>>> On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:43:39 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman
>>>>>>>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>>> Explosion isn't quite the right concept. The universe is pictured as
>>>>> starting off very small, very dense, and expanding rapidly, but it
>>>>> created the space it expanded into  as it expanded.
>>>>
>>>> Only in the imagination of mathematicians who are starting as kids to try to do a divide by nothing (zero)
>>>> and then create infinities such as black's holes.
>>>
>>> You've got that backwards. Black holes are entirely finite, because they
>>> contain enough mass to close space back in  on itself.
>> 
>> Sound like shit talk.
>
>Which is to say you don't understand it, and resent having your 
>ignorance highlighted
>
>> In a Le Sage system there is a point where all LS particles are intercepted.
>
>Pity about all the other defects in the Le Sage model.
>
>>>> Tip: there are no infinities in nature, something always will give way.
>>>
>>> With black holes it's the curvature of space-time.
>> 
>> Space and time are not curved, matter is less compressed near a big mass that intercepts some
>> LS particles, making the pendulum longer and clocks slowing down.
>
>That would be relevant is the Le Sage model could work. It can't.
>
>Gravitational lensing demonstrates that space-tine is curved in the 
>vicinity of any mass - you need a lot of mass to get an observable 
>curvature,
>
>The first big test of that prediction was made during the 1919 eclipse 
>of the sun.
>
>https://earthsky.org/human-world/may-29-1919-solar-eclipse-einstein-relativity/
>
>There have been plenty of others since then.
>
>> Same limits apply
>> 
>> It is simple.
>
>If you ignore most of the data.
>
><snipped more ill-informed nonsense.>

You need a brain-wash