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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Kevrob <kjrobinson@mail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: American War a dystopic novel Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 11:17:02 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 76 Message-ID: <vb4ku1$2t2fs$1@dont-email.me> References: <varj6s$c1sq$1@dont-email.me> <vat874$kerq$1@dont-email.me> <ljfb5cF18ttU2@mid.individual.net> <vaubfv$srme$2@dont-email.me> <ljfqtjF3gbnU1@mid.individual.net> <vb0197$15cer$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2024 17:17:21 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="b9352442e5678e04fdf78b505248ba41"; logging-data="3049980"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19rv2qOnfpK29S6ms04bbU8LIfA8MvBWC0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:IPtwc8QoLZb+jzWYBs2nirv1PkM= X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 240902-4, 9/2/2024), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vb0197$15cer$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Bytes: 3762 On 8/31/2024 5:17 PM, Robert Carnegie wrote: > On 31/08/2024 07:18, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >> In article <vaubfv$srme$2@dont-email.me>, >> Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com> wrote: >>> On 8/30/24 18:49, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote: >> And is pretty hard >>> science that there is no way to defend the land >>> from the rising water. Exactly how fast it will happen is the main >>> dispute. I live in California where we have earthquakes and >> >> The Dutch might dispute that.. > > Let's table that point. On the other hand: Venice. > >> Not sure this one would be for me, sounds a bit too bleak. >> >> Trying to think of other SF examples of sea rise, but all that's coming >> to mind (other than the sinking of Atlantis) right now is the XKCD "Time" >> sequence. > > John Wyndham, _The Kraken Wakes_ (sea people are angry) > > Stephen Baxter, _Flood_, _Ark_ (similar) > > J. G. Ballard, _The Drowned World_ (1962) > > Richard Jefferies, _After London_ (1885) > > Ken McLeod, _The Cassini Division_, I think contains > a scene, which certainly is in something, of flying > above London and observing a line of little points > sticking just above the water level. This is the top > of the Thames Flood Barrier. > <https://historicengland.org.uk/services-skills/education/educational- > images/thames-flood-barrier-woolwich-10386> > > I think the sea had risen in the film of > _Johnny Mnemonic_. It definitely had in > Stephen Spielberg's _A.I._. And on a lesser > scale in _Evan Almighty_ I remember Jack Kirby's take on Earth: After Disaster - "Kamandi, the Last Boy on Earth." The Great Lakes will have merged and Hudson's Bay gets surrounded by land. https://www.comics.org/issue/25510/cover/4/? per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Kamandi notes that while his publisher asked the King to cook up something reminiscent of The Planet of the Apes, Jack had unsold ideas from as early as the mid-50s in his files which he reworked into a new feature. And one he did sell. From ALARMING TALES #1 1957: "The Last Enemy" https://marswillsendnomore.wordpress.com/2012/09/24/alarming-tales-1-the-last-enemy-donnegans-daffy-chair/ https://readallcomics.com/alarming-tales-1/ Harvey was still in business doing Casper and Richie Rich. I don't think they sued. -- Kevin R .. -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com