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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Isaac Montara <IsaacMontara@nospam.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs? Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 18:07:25 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <vb5cut$30p45$1@dont-email.me> References: <vb4o37$2f2k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vb4q0k$21bpi$1@solani.org> <vb5126$2ub27$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 00:07:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="12cdfde4468237c2d167c7e60b71158b"; logging-data="3171461"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Y9FEDeI8t5k+2/LZfbg0p" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.10.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:MVlHaEEIo5vJiSQ9nGWU8tNcL/g= Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3110 On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 11:44:22 -0700, Alan wrote: >>> What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs? >>> >>> The fact is of all common consumer operating systems, as of February 2023, >>> only Apple *requires* you to completely lose your privacy by forcing you to >>> use 2FA (which, for most people, is accomplished by their personal phone). >>> >>> Obviously I'm aghast that only Apple completely ignores any request for >>> privacy, but I can't fight it and still log into my Apple ID on my iPads. >>> >>> While I gave Apple my personal very private cell phone number, because I >>> was forced to do it in order to create the new Apple ID, my question here >>> is how can we avoid giving Apple our privacy for the rest of our lives? >>> >>> What other forms of 2FA can we give Apple to log into new Apple accounts? >>> >> >> I'm not entirely sure, but it seems you can get a different trusted device. >> >> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660 >> >> If you don't want to give out your personal phone number maybe a Google >> Voice number would work. Use a Google solution to authenticate with Apple! >> > > BTW, for your edification on Arlen's claim that this "only Apple": > > 'Can I turn 2-Step Verification off? > Currently, you can turn off 2-Step Verification after it's turned on > automatically, but signing in with just a password makes your account > much less secure. > > Soon, 2-Step Verification will be required for most Google Accounts.' > > <https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10956730?hl=en#zippy=%2Ccan-i-turn--step-verification-off> Read what the link says next time before you post that kind of garbage. A Google Account is not needed to use Android or Windows or Linux. Google controls its operating system just as Apple controls its OS. And Google is not requiring MFV for use of their Android operating system.