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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs? Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 16:22:43 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vb5hc3$31avb$1@dont-email.me> References: <vb4o37$2f2k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vb4q0k$21bpi$1@solani.org> <vb5126$2ub27$2@dont-email.me> <vb5cut$30p45$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 01:22:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c9526741b9cb130a56c5603f6d41be10"; logging-data="3189739"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+MhcBMzqIJULdozP3yW7PJmRiU+0MMP9U=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:PBpkgX2gETDZd6FjKZxSHsKdwyg= In-Reply-To: <vb5cut$30p45$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 3333 On 2024-09-02 15:07, Isaac Montara wrote: > On Mon, 2 Sep 2024 11:44:22 -0700, Alan wrote: > >>>> What "forms" of 2FA is Apple requiring for all new Apple IDs? >>>> >>>> The fact is of all common consumer operating systems, as of February >>>> 2023, >>>> only Apple *requires* you to completely lose your privacy by forcing >>>> you to >>>> use 2FA (which, for most people, is accomplished by their personal >>>> phone). >>>> >>>> Obviously I'm aghast that only Apple completely ignores any request for >>>> privacy, but I can't fight it and still log into my Apple ID on my >>>> iPads. >>>> >>>> While I gave Apple my personal very private cell phone number, >>>> because I >>>> was forced to do it in order to create the new Apple ID, my question >>>> here >>>> is how can we avoid giving Apple our privacy for the rest of our lives? >>>> >>>> What other forms of 2FA can we give Apple to log into new Apple >>>> accounts? >>>> >>> >>> I'm not entirely sure, but it seems you can get a different trusted >>> device. >>> >>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102660 >>> >>> If you don't want to give out your personal phone number maybe a Google >>> Voice number would work. Use a Google solution to authenticate with >>> Apple! >>> >> >> BTW, for your edification on Arlen's claim that this "only Apple": >> >> 'Can I turn 2-Step Verification off? >> Currently, you can turn off 2-Step Verification after it's turned on >> automatically, but signing in with just a password makes your account >> much less secure. >> >> Soon, 2-Step Verification will be required for most Google Accounts.' >> >> <https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/10956730?hl=en#zippy=%2Ccan-i-turn--step-verification-off> > > Read what the link says next time before you post that kind of garbage. > A Google Account is not needed to use Android or Windows or Linux. > > Google controls its operating system just as Apple controls its OS. > And Google is not requiring MFV for use of their Android operating system. I'm sure that's a nicety that all the ordinary consumers who set up Android phones are completely aware of... ....oh, wait.