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Path: ...!npeer.as286.net!npeer-ng0.as286.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Defining a correct simulating halt decider Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 08:00:50 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: <vb71a3$3b4ub$4@dont-email.me> References: <vb4plc$2tqeg$1@dont-email.me> <vb6o5t$3a95s$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 15:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f5540fbd60b9a9e7d5f7c4b40526c50b"; logging-data="3511243"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/LyLC1nVoO87nh1IvvYw+Z" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:t6gtm9mzD4r+2gm56huVUJzbcgI= In-Reply-To: <vb6o5t$3a95s$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2454 On 9/3/2024 5:25 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-09-02 16:38:03 +0000, olcott said: > >> A halt decider is a Turing machine that computes >> the mapping from its finite string input to the >> behavior that this finite string specifies. > > A halt decider needn't compute the full behaviour, only whether > that behaviour is finite or infinite. > void DDD() { HHH(DDD); return; } New slave_stack at:1038c4 Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation Execution Trace Stored at:1138cc [00002172][001138bc][001138c0] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173][001138bc][001138c0] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175][001138b8][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a][001138b4][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) New slave_stack at:14e2ec [00002172][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175][0015e2e0][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a][0015e2dc][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped Hence HHH(DDD)==0 is correct -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer