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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Defining a correct simulating halt decider
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 08:23:34 -0500
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On 9/3/2024 3:16 AM, joes wrote:
> Am Mon, 02 Sep 2024 17:22:50 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 9/2/2024 12:52 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 02.sep.2024 om 18:38 schreef olcott:
>>>> A halt decider never ever computes the mapping for the computation
>>>> that itself is contained within.
> Then it is unsuited to the halting problem.
> 

See my replay to Mike.
On 9/3/2024 8:17 AM, olcott wrote:
No sense repeating all of the elaborate details here.
Here it is:
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>>> Indeed, it should simulate *itself* and not a hypothetical other HHH
>>> with different behaviour.
>>> If HHH includes code to see a 'special condition' and aborts and halts,
>>> then it should also simulate the HHH that includes this same code and
>>
>> DDD has itself and the emulated HHH stuck in recursive emulation.
>> When HHH emulates itself emulating DDD the emulated HHH cannot possibly
>> return because each DDD keeps calling HHH to emulate itself again until
>> the outer executed HHH kills the whole emulated process at the very
>> first emulated DDD before it ever reaches its own second line.
> Why is the abort not simulated?
> 


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