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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: OT: Surely there's an SF story with this..... Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:49:53 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 58 Message-ID: <vb7loh$3eili$2@dont-email.me> References: <vaqdc5$2dfk$2@dont-email.me> <vavugm$14r6j$1@dont-email.me> <vb01rk$15cer$2@dont-email.me> <vb2b17$1iqam$1@dont-email.me> <m6obdjl5to77dt0867arhth17j1ha3hgcc@4ax.com> <vb7jk8$3e57t$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2024 20:49:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="38ff907a00ff86594c62bd026706493f"; logging-data="3623602"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19i3lNRvKB2QN/Ky6yATQ1FCHCY7HJ8+LM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:kjxMdVwAgRM1ADRfF18SkbzzSis= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vb7jk8$3e57t$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3429 On 9/3/2024 1:13 PM, Cryptoengineer wrote: > On 9/2/2024 12:01 PM, Paul S Person wrote: >> On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 14:16:07 -0400, Cryptoengineer >> <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> <snip-a-bit> >>> The Soviets did try a 20 meter mirror, which very >>> briefly provided light on a rapidly moving 5km spot >>> on the ground, equivalent to 'several full moons'. >>> >>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-man-who-turned-night-into-day/ >>> >>> So, yes, maybe you could provide a light with some usefulness >>> for a few minutes, if the mirror was steered to point to one >>> spot. Reflect Orbitals claim is that they can provide >>> light for 4 minutes at a time. >>> >>> The ISS can be in sight for as long as 6.5 minutes on a pass, so >>> RO's mirrors must be lower. That's good for being bright, but also >>> means they're subject to a lot of drag from remnant traces of >>> atmosphere, and will need to either have propulsion to keep on >>> station, or be replaced frequently. >> >> If they were far enough out, they would be over the same spot for a >> lot longer than that. Have to be a /really/ big mirror, though. >> >>> The suggestion to use RO's mirrors to power solar plants is a >>> total non-starter. The mirror can't deliver more light than >>> falls on it, and if its spread over several kilometers on the >>> ground, its just not bright enough to do anything useful, quite >>> aside from the idea that powering one for less than 5 minutes >>> has a use case. >>> >>> Finally, you'd piss off every astronomer and stargazer on Earth. >> >> IIRC, Musk's satellite clouds have already done that. > > Yes, and Starlink has gone to considerable effort to > mitigate the problem, with significant (but not total) > success. > > The constellation the Chinese are starting to put up > looks like very bad news, though. > > pt Especially when the Chinese space ship broke apart in orbit into 300+ pieces at 800 km LEO. https://www.space.com/china-megaconstellation-launch-space-junk and https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/1eo0nbi/chinese_rocket_breaks_apart_after/ People are very unhappy as this is not the first time the Chinese have done this. Lynn