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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python <python@invalid.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: The problem of relativistic synchronisation Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 14:05:54 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 58 Message-ID: <vb9if2$3qjfp$2@dont-email.me> References: <m_uze6jFLkrMPuR4XaNmQntFPLY@jntp> <vaa4om$sicr$16@dont-email.me> <tAXYNx1-wzYUg_H0N6FWnLiQgFs@jntp> <vasgsq$go2j$1@dont-email.me> <TjDY9uUVn5uYrwKeP_H1Mk0G5x8@jntp> <ljfrjfF3hr1U1@mid.individual.net> <IqoVDZIyxVoLReItZ3sD4aYyQ64@jntp> <ljifq8FfkpfU4@mid.individual.net> <n1NunzaSneGRSHWe2aSXzpS1tkE@jntp> <ljl42mFrt9qU2@mid.individual.net> <p2RSa2nmyY3QibDdou42v9g0HlQ@jntp> <ljnmhfF974rU6@mid.individual.net> <ljqg76FmfojU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 14:05:55 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f8d71566ceadf1b6fe05dd5e1564538d"; logging-data="4017657"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+G7KVeudemo8CXvt3uUlrp" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:bt7oUZSQ24zC2CaO+zye/9UfIEU= In-Reply-To: <ljqg76FmfojU1@mid.individual.net> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3852 Le 04/09/2024 à 09:24, Thomas Heger a écrit : > Am Dienstag000003, 03.09.2024 um 07:53 schrieb Thomas Heger: >> Am Montag000002, 02.09.2024 um 14:16 schrieb Richard Hachel: >>> Le 02/09/2024 à 08:25, Thomas Heger a écrit : >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I use the observation, that clocks around the Earth surface tick at >>>> the same rate, while they don't tick at the same rate at different >>>> altitudes. >>> >>> There is already a bias here. >>> If a watch is placed at altitude, it does not evolve at the same >>> speed as a fixed watch placed at the level of our local mass >>> reference center that we could put the sun, or even the galactic >>> center. The effects of these reference frames are perhaps negligible. >>> I do not know. But at least, the effects of the revolution of the >>> object around the center of the earth are not the same as the effects >>> on an object placed on the surface of the ground. Worse, for the >>> object placed on the surface of the ground, it is the center of the >>> earth that rotates around it; and also for the other. These effects >>> are no longer really Galilean, but effects of rotating reference >>> frames for which I have given the equations, and which cause some >>> surprises (it is the object that goes the fastest that has the time >>> that passes the fastest, contrary to Galilean effects). >>> >> There exist no 'center of the universe', because everything moves. >> >> If we define a certer of our own local frame of reference, we do this >> for pratical purposes, even if no such thing as a center would exist. >> >> >> I personally prefer a setting, where the observer in question rests in >> the center of his own frame of reference. >> >> I call this perspective 'subjectivism', because this is the view we >> have from the world around us. >> >> We could use any other point, however, if we decide to do so. >> >> But this wouldn't make this point the center of the world, but the >> center of our frame of reference. >> >> But none of these 'centers' is actually real, because the universe has >> no center. >> > This is actually the reason, why 'big-bang-theory' must be wrong. > > The big bang would be, in a way, the center of the universe and the > beginning of time. You are again making up silly stuff. In the b-b-theory there is NO center. The Big Band happened everywhere. > [snip demented nonsense]