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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 18:07:47 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <vba7lj$3u30m$1@dont-email.me> References: <vb4lvk$2t1k9$1@dont-email.me> <vb5j2s$31gq9$4@dont-email.me> <vb7pqg$3f3g9$1@dont-email.me> <vb82hf$3ge34$1@dont-email.me> <ljpnilFa2gbU1@mid.individual.net> <vb89to$3gmfq$2@dont-email.me> <ljpob0Fa2gbU2@mid.individual.net> <vb8i71$3m6vo$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 20:07:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a38a99ec047280b9975e43649eec325c"; logging-data="4131862"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18r/zvcxMhiidFX8qbBGIgo6D9CgnoVzD8=" User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.1 (VMS/Multinet) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0TrNJYyD29Px+0SYgAJ5jV4Ekec= Bytes: 2725 On 2024-09-03, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote: > On 9/3/2024 8:35 PM, bill wrote: >> On 9/3/2024 8:34 PM, Arne Vajh�j wrote: >>> On 9/3/2024 8:22 PM, bill wrote: >>>> On 9/3/2024 6:27 PM, Craig A. Berry wrote: >>>>> Has anyone actually tried porting FPC to VMS? It looks at first glance >>>>> like a lot of it is written in Pascal, so I assume it would need to be >>>>> cross-compiled initially. >>>> >>>> Why? Wasn't the VMS Pascal compiler ported? I would think it >>>> would be a lot easier porting something written in Pascal >>>> compared to something written in C. >>> >>> If FPC source is ISO Pascal then VMS Pascal may be able to build it >>> with maybe a few tweaks. >>> >>> But if the FPC source is Object Pascal then VMS Pascal is of no use. >>> >>> A quick glance at https://github.com/fpc/FPCSource/screams Object Pascal. >>> >> >> So, that OO shit comes out to bite people on the ass yet again. :-) >> > > Some like to forget, at the bottom, it is just ones and zeros ... > You can write entire applications and operating systems in assembly language if you wish. Nobody sane does that these days because higher-level procedural languages have abstractions that make the writing of these programs/environments much easier and far more reliable. Likewise, OO languages, when used properly, are an even higher level of abstraction over procedural languages. Simon. -- Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.