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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=C3=B8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms Subject: Re: Fun: Object Pascal on VMS Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 15:29:23 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <vbacei$3untj$2@dont-email.me> References: <vb4lvk$2t1k9$1@dont-email.me> <vb5j2s$31gq9$4@dont-email.me> <vb6uj9$3b189$1@dont-email.me> <vb7auv$3d1hc$1@dont-email.me> <vb7iv2$3e0a3$1@dont-email.me> <vb8hpk$3m6vo$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 21:29:22 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a34f15afe35d4f270c1a183f104d771d"; logging-data="4153267"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19fJaAX9aq5CCKZNHYPHIhr8tFS5p+l9cI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:8DJ80l/XJhF6JheasowAO7/3lgs= In-Reply-To: <vb8hpk$3m6vo$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2463 On 9/3/2024 10:48 PM, Dave Froble wrote: > On 9/3/2024 2:02 PM, Simon Clubley wrote: >> On 2024-09-03, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote: >>> As for VMS and Pascal, there is a very decent implementation of that >>> language on >>> VMS, so what's the problem when a product aimed at a different >>> environment will >>> not run on every environment. >> >> So how capable are the OO features in VMS Pascal these days ? > > You state that similar to my comment above, as if it is a given that OO > is necessary. Perhaps not. Cheap way to avoid my question. If you write OS kernel or an embedded application for a device counting memory in KB (or maybe a few MB): it is not necessary. For most everything else: it is necessary - most developers expect OO features to be available. Languages with OO support are dominant in the industry. Of the seven most widely used languages today (Python, JavaScript, Java, C, C++, C# and PHP) only one (C) does not have OO support. And OO does provide value at least for larger applications. The encapsulation and abstraction makes life a lot easier for larger applications. As any feature then OO can and has been misused though. A lot of "early 90's style" C++ code demonstrate that. Arne