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From: Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel...
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:58:32 -0000 (UTC)
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MitchAlsup1 <mitchalsup@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:15:24 +0000, Brett wrote:
> 
>> David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
>>> On 03/09/2024 21:28, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>>>> My impression - based on hearsay for Rust as I have no experience - is
>>>>> that
>>>>> the key point of Rust is memory "safety".  I use scare-quotes here,
>>>>> since it
>>>>> is simply about correct use of dynamic memory and buffers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is entirely possible to have correct use of memory in C,
>>>> 
>>>> If you look at the evolution of programming languages, "higher-level"
>>>> doesn't mean "you can do more stuff".  On the contrary, making
>>>> a language "higher-level" means deciding what it is we want to make
>>>> harder or even impossible.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Agreed.
>>> 
>>> I've heard it said that the power of a programming language comes not
>>> from what you can do with the language, but from what you cannot do.
>> 
>> Wrong, the last version of Swift added all the garbage programming
>> concepts
>> that one should avoid.
>> 
>> You have to give people the tools to do anything.
> 
> It is impossible to create a computer programming language where
> the programmer cannot shoot himself in the foot.

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