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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: Added new newsgroups to our hierarchie
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rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org> wrote:

>server:
>https://news.hispagatos.org

>Please if you are peering with us "news.hispagatos.org"
>or someone that is peering with us and carry our hierarchies
>please carry us. We have very active newsgroups.

>- hispagatos.hacking.ctf
>- hispagatos.hacking.exploits
>- hispagatos.hacking.news

>The ones we had for some time:

>- hispagaos.talk
>- hispagatos.test
>- hispagatos.comunicados
>- hispagatos.ayuda

>We also started last year and also active:

>- alt.2600.madrid 

I'm going to criticize you.

The hierarchy administrator may establish the nature of the newsgroups
in the hierarchy, institutional or regional or international, language, etc.

But alt.* is a long-established hierarchy. You aren't its administrator.
We don't have one. But that doesn't make it "anything goes".

News administrators run Usenet, not hierarchy administrator. Yes, you
present Usenet -- a specific set of newsgroups -- according to your
opinion, no one else's.

Just because you can do this doesn't mean you should.

Why would you create a newsgroup, named into alt.*, just for your News
site and your peers? That's a hostile act toward the rest of the Usenet
community. Other News administrators, especially those you don't peer
with, don't want to create a group proprietary to you, a group without
an archived newgroup message that's not in the generic active and
newsgroups files at ftp.isc.org.

Properly, a proposed group has a proponent who tells the Usenet community, I
believe in this newsgroup. I've given it a proper name so people can
find it, and its named into a proper subhiearchy with similar
newsgroups. It's not redundant of another newsgroup.

I've thought about what is to be discussed and I will describe it to the
Usenet community.

I've identified an audience for the newsgroup and I will work to promote
the group till discussion is sustainable.

Most important, I put my name on the proposal and I stand behind it with
my personal reputation. I am known for discussing this topic on Usenet.

You didn't do any of those things. The "madrid" component suggests
regional, but regional newsgroups shouldn't be named into an
international hierarchy like alt.*. The 2600 component suggests hacking.
What does "madrid" have to do with "2600"?

What language is spoken? Generally, alt.* groups are English language,
except where they aren't. There are some subhierarchies suggesting that
other languages are used.

But we'll never know. You wrote no charter. There's no newgroup message.

It's a lousy thing to do.