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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Defining a correct simulating halt decider
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 11:10:40 -0500
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On 9/5/2024 10:57 AM, joes wrote:
> Am Thu, 05 Sep 2024 08:24:20 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 9/5/2024 2:34 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-03 13:00:50 +0000, olcott said:
>>>> On 9/3/2024 5:25 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-02 16:38:03 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> A halt decider is a Turing machine that computes the mapping from
>>>>>> its finite string input to the behavior that this finite string
>>>>>> specifies.
>>>>>
>>>>> A halt decider needn't compute the full behaviour, only whether that
>>>>> behaviour is finite or infinite.
>>>>
>>> Nice to see that you don't disagree with what said. Unvortunately I
>>> can't agree with what you say.
>>> HHH terminates, so DDD obviously terminates, too. No valid
>>> C interpretaion of allows DDD to continue forever after HHH jas
>>> terminated.
>> DDD emulated by HHH never reaches it final halt state. It looks like I
>> have to repeat this 10,000 times before anyone ever notices that I said
>> it at least once.
> We have noticed.
> 
>> Show the details of how DDD emulated by HHH reaches its own machine
>> address 0000217f.


> By HHH returning, which we are guaranteed from its definition as a
> decider.
> 

Are you trying to get away with a lie by erasing the context?

_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

Show the details of how DDD emulated by HHH
reaches its own machine address 0000217f.

00002172, 00002173, 00002175, 0000217a calls HHH(DDD)
then
00002172, 00002173, 00002175, 0000217a calls HHH(DDD)...

How the F--- Does the emulated HHH return?
Show the exact freaking steps of how the emulated HHH returns !!!

00002172, 00002173, 00002175, 0000217a calls HHH(DDD)
then what comes next???

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