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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Safe Superintelligence (SSI): Now they are dancing Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 19:50:00 +0200 Message-ID: <vbcr07$26j0c$1@solani.org> References: <v67685$6fr5$1@solani.org> <vb2jdo$202pl$3@solani.org> <vb6mna$23gm0$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 17:49:59 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="2313228"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.19 Cancel-Lock: sha1:L4n1GuV7UpAhiWBsRZtLXWphddU= X-User-ID: eJwFwYkBADAEBLCVivN0HIr9R2iiYmTPYWrQ1V1DBCP4SL7CQ9YKaeIk56RvX8Q0XbuhHC5dc7Kpx2uw+FIlFfM= In-Reply-To: <vb6mna$23gm0$1@solani.org> Bytes: 4881 Lines: 106 Hi, SAN FRANCISCO/NEW YORK, Sept 4 - Safe Superintelligence (SSI), newly co-founded by OpenAI's former chief scientist Ilya Sutskever, has raised $1 billion in cash to help develop safe artificial intelligence systems that far surpass human capabilities, company executives told Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/openai-co-founder-sutskevers-new-safety-focused-ai-startup-ssi-raises-1-billion-2024-09-04/ Now they are dancing https://twitter.com/AIForHumansShow/status/1831465601782706352 Bye Mild Shock schrieb: > > What a bullshit: > > Another concern is the potential for AI to displace > jobs and exacerbate economic inequality. A recent > study by McKinsey estimates that up to 800 million > jobs could be automated by 2030. While Murati believes > that AI will ultimately create more jobs than it > displaces, she acknowledges the need for policies to > support workers through the transition, such as job > retraining programs and strengthened social safety nets. > https://expertbeacon.com/mira-murati-shaping-the-future-of-ai-ethics-and-innovation-at-openai/ > > > Lets say there is a wine valley. All workers > are replaced by AI robots. Where do they go. > In some cultures you don't find people over > 30 that are long life learners. What should they > > learn, on another valley where they harvest > oranges, they also replaced everybody by AI > robots. And so on the next valley, and the > next valley. We need NGO's and a Greta Thunberg > > for AI ethics, not a nice face from OpenAI. > > Mild Shock schrieb: >> >> The carbon emissions of writing and illustrating >> are lower for AI than for humans >> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-54271-x >> >> Perplexity CEO Aravind Srinivas says that the cost per >> query in AI models has decreased by 100x in the past >> 2 years and quality will improve as hallucinations >> decrease 10x per year >> https://twitter.com/tsarnick/status/1830045611036721254 >> >> Disclaimer: Can't verify the later claim... need to find a paper. >> >> Mild Shock schrieb: >>> Could be a wake-up call this many participants >>> already in the commitee, that the whole logic >>> world was asleep for many years: >>> >>> Non-Classical Logics. Theory and Applications XI, >>> 5-8 September 2024, Lodz (Poland) >>> https://easychair.org/cfp/NCL24 >>> >>> Why is Minimal Logic at the core of many things? >>> Because it is the logic of Curry-Howard isomoprhism >>> for symple types: >>> >>> ---------------- >>> Γ ∪ { A } ⊢ A >>> >>> Γ ∪ { A } ⊢ B >>> ---------------- >>> Γ ⊢ A → B >>> >>> Γ ⊢ A → B Δ ⊢ A >>> ---------------------------- >>> Γ ∪ Δ ⊢ B >>> >>> And funny things can happen, especially when people >>> hallucinate duality or think symmetry is given, for >>> example in newer inventions such as λμ-calculus, >>> >>> but then omg ~~p => p is nevertheless not provable, >>> because they forgot an inference rule. LoL >>> >>> Recommended reading so far: >>> >>> Propositional Logics Related to Heyting’s and Johansson’s >>> February 2008 - Krister Segerberg >>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228036664 >>> >>> The Logic of Church and Curry >>> Jonathan P. Seldin - 2009 >>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/handbook/handbook-of-the-history-of-logic/vol/5/suppl/C >>> >>> >>> Meanwhile I am going back to my tinkering with my >>> Prolog system, which even provides a more primitive >>> logic than minimal logic, pure Prolog is minimal >>> >>> logic without embedded implication. >> > https://www.reuters.com/technology/artificial-intelligence/openai-co-founder-sutskevers-new-safety-focused-ai-startup-ssi-raises-1-billion-2024-09-04/