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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: OT: quantum conciousness Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 15:36:33 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <vbe4db$n9rm$1@dont-email.me> References: <vbe35b$274sh$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 07:36:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="aa501772c04d6e891031a8c9f958e6f3"; logging-data="763766"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19jUBrmHH7cK4UffLUZ4oEH9At4ljg+phM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:JP7nh7RFWhx1j+1nSDqh12FarSg= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 240906-0, 6/9/2024), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <vbe35b$274sh$1@solani.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2143 On 6/09/2024 3:15 pm, Jan Panteltje wrote: > New research on anesthesia unlocks important clues about the nature of consciousness > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2024/09/240905120923.htm > > Source: > Wellesley College > Summary: > New research on anesthesia has yielded important results about > the physical basis of consciousness in the brain. > > quote: > ' > More broadly, a quantum understanding of consciousness > "gives us a world picture in which we can be connected to the universe in a more natural and holistic way," > Wiest says. The fact that something that binds to microtubules in the neurone makes anesthetics less effective isn't any kind of argument that what going on in the microtubules is any kind of quantum effect. The researchers are treating the Penrose speculation as if it were a proven fact, rather than a feckless speculation. The fact that we don't know what's gong on in the microtubules isn't any kind of excuse to claim that it is a "quantum effect". -- Bill Sloman, Sydney