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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases with mt new notion of {linguistic truth} Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 06:17:53 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vbeod1$punj$1@dont-email.me> References: <vb0lkb$1c1kh$2@dont-email.me> <vb1hdi$1feme$1@dont-email.me> <vb4erg$2s0uc$1@dont-email.me> <vb6hv7$39dvq$1@dont-email.me> <vb71fn$3b4ub$5@dont-email.me> <vbbm40$8k2u$1@dont-email.me> <vbc9t5$bdtb$1@dont-email.me> <vbem5f$pont$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2024 13:17:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="be3ab62c57446c7ddf1fbbd69383ba43"; logging-data="850675"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18C5EyHVoKsfTy9m9fbj371" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:xvrvztW+JyyGWSsCPX6kGdKEiFQ= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vbem5f$pont$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3170 On 9/6/2024 5:39 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-09-05 12:58:13 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 9/5/2024 2:20 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-09-03 13:03:51 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 9/3/2024 3:39 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-09-02 13:33:36 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/1/2024 5:58 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-09-01 03:04:43 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> knowledge is a justified true belief such that the >>>>>>>> justification is sufficient reason to accept the >>>>>>>> truth of the belief. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The remaining loophole is the lack of an exact definition >>>>>>> of "sufficient reason". >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ultimately sufficient reason is correct semantic >>>>>> entailment from verified facts. >>>>> >>>>> The problem is "verified" facts: what is sufficient verification? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Stipulated to be true is always sufficient: >>>> Cats are a know if animal. >>> >>> Insufficient for practtical purposes. You may stipulate that >>> nitroglycerine is not poison but it can kill you anyway. >>> >> >> The point is that <is> the way the linguistic truth actually works. > > I've never seen or heard any linguist say so. The term has been used > by DG Schwartz in 1985. > This is similar to the analytic/synthetic distinction yet unequivocal. I am redefining the term analytic truth to have a similar definition and calling this {linguistic truth}. Expression of X of language L is proved true entirely based on its meaning expressed in language L. Empirical truth requires sense data from the sense organs to be verified as true. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer