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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases with mt new notion
 of {linguistic truth}
Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 06:52:33 -0500
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On 9/6/2024 6:28 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 9/6/24 7:17 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 9/6/2024 5:39 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-05 12:58:13 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 9/5/2024 2:20 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-03 13:03:51 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/3/2024 3:39 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-09-02 13:33:36 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 9/1/2024 5:58 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-09-01 03:04:43 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> knowledge is a justified true belief such that the
>>>>>>>>>> justification is sufficient reason to accept the
>>>>>>>>>> truth of the belief.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The remaining loophole is the lack of an exact definition
>>>>>>>>> of "sufficient reason".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ultimately sufficient reason is correct semantic
>>>>>>>> entailment from verified facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is "verified" facts: what is sufficient verification?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stipulated to be true is always sufficient:
>>>>>> Cats are a know if animal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Insufficient for practtical purposes. You may stipulate that
>>>>> nitroglycerine is not poison but it can kill you anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The point is that <is> the way the linguistic truth actually works.
>>>
>>> I've never seen or heard any linguist say so. The term has been used
>>> by DG Schwartz in 1985.
>>>
>>
>> This is similar to the analytic/synthetic distinction
>> yet unequivocal.
>>
>> I am redefining the term analytic truth to have a
>> similar definition and calling this {linguistic truth}.
> 
> In other words, you are just admitting that you don't know what you are 
> doing, as you don't really get redefine fundamental terms and stay in 
> the logic system.
> 

I came up with a brand new idea and gave it an appropriate name.
Truth in the system that I defined only pertains to relations
between finite strings. It is the actual philosophical foundation
of every expression X of language L that is true on the basis of
its meaning expressed in language L.

You can't get away with saying that all new ideas are inherently wrong.

>>
>> Expression of X of language L is proved true entirely
>> based on its meaning expressed in language L. Empirical
>> truth requires sense data from the sense organs to be
>> verified as true.
>>
> 
> So, I guess you don't think the pythagorous formula, that "the square of 
> the hypotenuse is equal to the sum of the squares of the other two 
> sides" is "proved true" as it can not be proved entirely based on its 
> MEANING expressed in the language. Since its "proof" isn't based on just 
> the actual meaning of any of the words used, it can't be true by your 
> definition.
> 
> Sorry, you are just proving that you are a total idiot.

I never limited meaning to words. Meaning is relations between
finite strings. The body of {linguistic truth} is the body of
{analytic truth} that the logical positivists promoted except
it has been made unequivocal.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer