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Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Rat The Luddite
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On 8/17/2024 5:21 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2024, Paul S Person wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 16:22:11 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes:
>>>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2024 18:13:46 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>>>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> <snippo mucho, response is to plastic reusable shopping bags>
>>>>
>>>>> I use cloth bags....
>>>
>>> I have a box with handles (e.g. a document storage box) that
>>> I keep in the car.  Tell the checker to leave everything in
>>> the cart and transfer from cart to box at car.
>>>
>>> No bags necessary.
>>
>> I'm non-motorized, so I not only need bags (currently boxes, as noted
>> elsewhere) but need exactly two of them (having exactly two arms to
>> tote them with), which affects how much I can buy at one time.
>>
>> But walking to and (especially) from the store is great exercise!
>>
> 
> This is the truth! I try to make it a point to walk to the store and 
> walk back with the bags for the exercise aspect.
> 
> I call it "micro-exercise" by which I mean all the small physical things 
> in life, that adds to our calory burn such as:
> 
> 1. Walking to the store.
> 2. Carrying groceries.
> 3. Walking back.
> 4. Taking the stairs.
> 5. Walking to business meetings (if they are a maximum of 20-25 minutes 
> away).
> 
> It is my firm belief that this has a positive effect on my health. It is 
> also my firm belief, that calling home food, using electric bikes/ 
> scooters, taking the elevator, in the aggregate detracts from ones health.

I had to junk my vehicle as we got deep into the pandemic. As funds were 
tight,  spending on repairs would have been unwise, especially as it was 
built it the mid-1990s and something else would have gone bad after what
was wrong with it was repaired.  I only recently replaced it with a 2008 
model.  I have only used it as a "grocery-getter" pending my getting it 
tuned up, tires replaced etc.  As the pandemic approached, the firm I
was working for closed up shop in my state.  As I no longer had to 
commute, I returned to walking and taking transit for my infrequent 
trips out of the house. I had groceries delivered often. I have used a
bicycle with suitable panniers and rack for grocery-getting and 
commuting during other carless stretches of my life.  One thing I liked 
was putting the bike on a rack on the front of a bus, and doing a hybrid 
commute. That could cut a 15-mile trip down to about 5 miles of 
peddling. I even have an MTA permit to take my bike on local trains. One 
can't use that during peak commuting hours, though.

I've been living halfway up a steep hill for some years. When it was 
plain that I would not be immediately able to replace my old Jeep, I 
invested in a foldable grocery cart - in New York slang, a "granny cart" 
- and either walked or rode the bus to the store, filled that, and 
either rolled all that home (1.6 miles one-way) or called an Uber, 
depending on how much I had bought. I, too, have had neighbors stop and 
offer me rides when I was returning home, trudging uphill.  Apparently, 
I could sometimes look like I was in rough shape.  There was one weekend 
where I really was, and eventually had to go to the hospital for an 
emergency procedure. I'm fine, now. Usually, I would thank those who 
offered help, explain that I was getting my daily exercise, and wanted 
to finish my "workout."

Though I once again have a vehicle, if I want something from my local 
convenience store, I will still walk there. It's 0.6 miles, round trip, 
down the hill and back up it. The nearest liquor store is 1.4 miles 
away, so a nearly 3 mile walk for a 6-pack.

I should get my bicycle back in good repair. Besides being good 
exercise, I enjoy riding. As a kid I rode to hell-and-gone, often making 
the rounds of my town in order to pick up all the latest comics and 
eventually the SF digest magazines.  For most of my school days I lived 
half a mile from our public library, and I would stop in there several 
times a month, and weekly or more in the summer.

-- 
Kevin R

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