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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2024 15:00:07 -0400
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On 9/6/2024 12:28 PM, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 09:13:41 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 22/08/2024 11.03, Paul S Person wrote:
>>
>>> IOW, it can be argued that it is not the /Christian's/ Christmas that
>>> is commercialized. Which is why it is more commonly called "the
>>> Holiday Season", and starts (at latest) the day after Thanksgiving and
>>> extends to (at earliest) New Year's Day. That is to say, I don't think
>>> it's been extended to the day after Halloween or Epiphany. Yet.
>>
>> The Christmas season runs to Epiphany.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Days_of_Christmas.
> 
> The religious one (and its cultural attachments) does, to be sure.
> That is why each year I listen to one movement of JS Bach's Christmas
> Oratorio on as close to the proper day as possible, and then take down
> my decorations (which went up on Christmas eve).
> 
> But I was talking about the /commercial/ version, with all its madness
> building to the 25th. Amazon will warn you if your order won't arrive
> before Dec 25th, aka The End of the World if your kid doesn't get the
> toy you ordered; I don't think it warns you the same way about Jan 6.
> "Epiphany tree" and "Epiphany gifts" are not terms I recall seeing
> very often.
> 
> Similarly, while the /commercial/ season begins the day after
> Thanksgiving (or at least did until relatively recently), the
> /religious/ season in a sense starts with the First Sunday in Advent.
> 
> These are at about the same time, but the commercial one was timed to
> not detract from Thanksgiving, while the religious one serves a
> different purpose.

The 'Holiday Season' now starts with Halloween. I'm seeing tons of
Halloween themed bricabrac in stores, and Hallmark is trying to
convince me to send out 'Halloween Cards".

pt