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> They're the reason Israeli F-16s as well as F-35s when delivering bombs 
> cannot get too close to Iran's borders :) Iraq is as close as they can 
> get. Even without full load, those aircraft have a good chance of 
> getting hit by Fath 360 which moves almost twice as fast and doesn't get 
> fooled by anything these crafts spit out around them.
> 
>


Oops. I was just reminded in a Telegram channel that Fath 360 is not an 
air defense system. So I went back to the two paragraphs of persian 
description of them I read last week on the web, when news said Iran 
will deliver them to Russia, and found out writer didn't word it 
correctly (must not have had Persian as mother tongue). These Fath 360s 
aren't "anti aircraft" but anti-anti aircraft. Their primary design and 
use is for destroying enemy's anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems on 
the ground. They're their most prized targets. Russians are getting them 
to weaken all sorts of enemy's air and missile defenses, not to shoot 
down enemy aircraft.

Fath 360 does travel twice as fast as F-16 and F-35s. But it is not an 
anti aircraft weapon. It avoids enemy anti-missile systems and hits 
their anti aircraft systems. That lousy Persian paragraph threw my 
totally off.

And as I said in my previous post, they have features in them that 
change the battle to a great degree in favor of the side using them. 
Mainly for very low price and therefore quantity of them used.

And the reason F-16s and F-35s of Israel do not dare getting inside Iran 
must be Iran's short, medium, and long range anti aircraft systems some 
of which they originally copied from Russian S300 systems. Kamins and 
Mersads and Raads for shorter to medium range, and the Sayyads and 
equivalents of S200, S300, and S400s for long range.