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From: "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: OT Rant About Christians.
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:12:19 -0500
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On 06/09/2024 11.28, Paul S Person wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 09:13:41 -0500, "Michael F. Stemper"
> <michael.stemper@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 22/08/2024 11.03, Paul S Person wrote:

>>> IOW, it can be argued that it is not the /Christian's/ Christmas that
>>> is commercialized. Which is why it is more commonly called "the
>>> Holiday Season", and starts (at latest) the day after Thanksgiving and
>>> extends to (at earliest) New Year's Day. That is to say, I don't think
>>> it's been extended to the day after Halloween or Epiphany. Yet.
>>
>> The Christmas season runs to Epiphany.
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Days_of_Christmas.
> 
> The religious one (and its cultural attachments) does, to be sure.
> That is why each year I listen to one movement of JS Bach's Christmas
> Oratorio on as close to the proper day as possible, and then take down
> my decorations (which went up on Christmas eve).
> 
> But I was talking about the /commercial/ version, with all its madness
> building to the 25th.

And then all Christmas music disappears from the radio on the 26th. Got it.

>   I don't think it warns you the same way about Jan 6.
> "Epiphany tree" and "Epiphany gifts" are not terms I recall seeing
> very often.

Not in the US, but I'm pretty sure that in Eastern Europe, Epiphany is
more significant than is Christmas.

> Similarly, while the /commercial/ season begins the day after
> Thanksgiving (or at least did until relatively recently), the
> /religious/ season in a sense starts with the First Sunday in Advent.

No, the First Sunday of Advent is when the season of Advent starts. The
(religious) Christmas season starts on December 25, or for traditionalists,
the evening of December 24.


-- 
Michael F. Stemper
Psalm 94:3-6