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On 9/6/2024 11:42 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 23:20:08 -0400, DFS wrote:
> 
>> "According to recent estimates, Adobe's Creative Cloud subscription
>> service had accumulated around 23 million active users as of mid-2022."
> 
> *Paying* users, yes. How “active” is “active”? Remember that, if you stop
> paying, you lose control of your own work.


You do not lose control of your docs when your Adobe (or MS 365) 
subscription ends or you stop paying.

I'm no fan of Adobe's business practices (subscription-only, high 
prices, crazy license terms, difficult and costly to cancel), but this 
is a bullshit lie that Linux lusers like to propagate.



 > So I rephrase my claim slightly: “Adobe is an irrelevance to 98% of
> Windows users”.

So?

Adobe is very relevant to the world of photography.  Photoshopped long 
ago became a verb.


> And there are good, in particular less restrictive, open source
> alternatives to all of Adobe’s main products, 


More wishful thinking.


Creative Cloud ($59.99/month subscription) includes these 25 apps:

Acrobat Pro
Acrobat Reader
Adobe Express
Adobe Firefly
Adobe Fresco
Adobe Premiere Pro
Adobe Scan
Adobe XD
Aero
After Effects
Animate
Audition
Bridge
Capture
Character Animator
Dreamweaver
Fill & Sign
Illustrator
InCopy
InDesign
Lightroom
Lightroom Classic
Media Encoder
Photoshop
Photoshop Express

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html


Got any evidence there are good FOSS alternatives to even one of them, 
let alone all of them?


If you want actual good alternatives to Adobe, the Affinity commercial 
products are often recommended, and they're one-time purchase for a very 
reasonable amt.



> no matter what their marketing department tells you.

When did Adobe's 'marketing dept' make such a claim?



>> 23M new Linux users would be a significant increase to the Linux
>> installed base of 17 (I didn't forget the M).
> 
> The number of copies of Linux in active daily use is far greater than
> that.


I don't know about that.  At any given time, cola has about 5 Linux-only 
advocates.  And that's down significantly from 10 years ago.