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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD emulated by HHH --- (does not refer to prior posts) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2024 08:51:47 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vbhlpj$1c7u5$8@dont-email.me> References: <vajdta$2qe9s$1@dont-email.me> <vak3a0$2teq9$1@dont-email.me> <vakhnf$302rl$2@dont-email.me> <vamk7l$3d7ki$1@dont-email.me> <van3v7$3f6c0$5@dont-email.me> <vap7b1$3sobs$1@dont-email.me> <vapvbc$3vumk$5@dont-email.me> <e10aee5b3ede543da42ba76ac4d7f0a0fe762695@i2pn2.org> <vasmn8$hmpd$1@dont-email.me> <vaumg9$ut9s$1@dont-email.me> <vav0r9$10jsm$1@dont-email.me> <vavb4a$11uqn$1@dont-email.me> <vavca1$1283f$1@dont-email.me> <vave2b$11uqn$7@dont-email.me> <vavfoi$12m8t$4@dont-email.me> <vb1hq0$1fgj7$1@dont-email.me> <vb4enb$2rs5t$3@dont-email.me> <vb6iop$39hrf$1@dont-email.me> <vb74m3$3b4ub$11@dont-email.me> <vbel4p$pko5$1@dont-email.me> <vbeoik$punj$2@dont-email.me> <vbh116$19c8m$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2024 15:51:47 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fc36cd944b9fa7fa30157002795d809b"; logging-data="1449925"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX194n/tW1AYp8+xiEioEP6Om" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:NO7wBveNiRDKAoKBjX0pQ0xSM1Y= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vbh116$19c8m$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3850 On 9/7/2024 2:57 AM, Mikko wrote: > On 2024-09-06 11:20:52 +0000, olcott said: > >> On 9/6/2024 5:22 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-09-03 13:58:27 +0000, olcott said: >>>> >>>> _DDD() >>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>> >>>> Anyone that is not dumber than a box of rocks can tell >>>> that machine address 0000217f is unreachable for every >>>> DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantics of the >>>> x86 language where HHH emulates itself emulating DDD. >>> >>> Anyone who really knows either x86 assembly or machine langage or >>> C can see that the machine address 217f is unreachachable only if >>> the program at 000015d2, named HHH, does not return. >>> >> >> That is not exactly true. There is a directly executed HHH >> that always returns and a DDD emulated by HHH that calls >> an emulated HHH that never returns. > > There is only one DDD. The emulated DDD is the same as the directly > executed DDD. If HHH emulates someting else then that is not DDD. > I have conclusively proven that DDD, DD, D, PP and P do have different behavior within pathological relationships than outside of pathological relationships at least 1000 times in the last three years. Since assuming away the pathological relationship that does indeed exist is so ridiculously stupid I initially called people despicable lying bastards for doing this. Now it seems more like people have been so deeply indoctrinated with the "received view" that you can smack them in the face with the truth so hard that it will knock them down and they never notice that you said a single word. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer