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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Top 10 most common hard skills listed on resumes... Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 10:12:17 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 18 Message-ID: <vbkbc1$1u33o$1@dont-email.me> References: <vab101$3er$1@reader1.panix.com> <87mskwy9t1.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <vanq4h$3iieb$1@dont-email.me> <875xrkxlgo.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <vapitn$3u1ub$1@dont-email.me> <87o75bwlp8.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <vaps06$3vg8l$1@dont-email.me> <871q27weeh.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <20240829083200.195@kylheku.com> <87v7zjuyd8.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <20240829084851.962@kylheku.com> <87mskvuxe9.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <vaq9tu$1te8$1@dont-email.me> <875xrivrg0.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <20240829191404.887@kylheku.com> <86cylqw2f8.fsf@linuxsc.com> <871q2568vl.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vavmbk$13k4n$1@dont-email.me> <87cylo494u.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <vb09gd$16mr5$1@dont-email.me> <20240831195350.785@kylheku.com> <86mskrrvco.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vbj9qb$1qi2h$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2024 16:12:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="94b3ef61139dcf7d2dc379b3f6e213bb"; logging-data="2034808"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18EXanBSu0biONtzQFANUIqo5wHjzX7npo=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5nr+69uG7VDXNkrzSKtnrfY+yyo= In-Reply-To: <vbj9qb$1qi2h$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2612 On 9/8/24 00:39, Janis Papanagnou wrote: .... > That's why I immediately see the necessity that compiler creators need > to know them in detail to _implement_ "C". And that's why I cannot see > how the statement of the C-standard's "most important purpose" would> sound reasonable (to me). ... I agree - the most important purpose is for implementors, not developers. > ... I mean, what will a programmer get from the > "C" standard that a well written text book doesn't provide? What the C standard says is more precise and more complete than what most textbooks say. Most important for my purposes, it makes it clear what's required and allowed by the standard. For most of my career, I worked under rules that required my code to avoid undefined behavior, to work correctly regardless of which choice implementations make on unspecified behavior, with a few exceptions.