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From: JAB <noway@nochance.com>
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Subject: Re: Are 'we' too negative?
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 23:06:04 +0100
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On 08/09/2024 18:13, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 9/8/2024 3:04 AM, JAB wrote:
>> On 07/09/2024 16:30, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>> When I did my O and A levels in the UK many years ago the system was 
>>>> based around your score vs. the score of everyone else who sat the 
>>>> exam. So, can't remember the exact numbers but it was something like 
>>>> the top 5% got an A, the next 15% a B, then the largest portion was 
>>>> C, and that was considered average, and the then D and E were the 
>>>> opposite of B and A.
>>>>
>>> "Grading on the curve."  Used by some college/university teachers in 
>>> the US as well.  Known to be inaccurate because a 30-100 student 
>>> class is NOT going to have the same distribution of "smart" as a 
>>> population of millions.  As is pointed out by many students.  
>>> Teachers defense of that system usually boils down to "Life isn't 
>>> fair, this reflects the way employers will treat you so get used to 
>>> being screwed."
>>
>> This was done nationally so you are literally talking about thousands 
>> upon thousands of sixteen/eighteen year olds sitting an exams. Being 
>> in a class with either all the worst or all the best wasn't going to 
>> change the grade you got.
>>
> So you could be the best of the worst, i.e. "the best" or the worst of 
> the best, i.e. "the worst".  So someone who was a worst student/lower 
> capability would end up with higher grades than someone in a different 
> classroom who was a better student/more capable.  And the awarded grades 
> would be a factor in hiring and promotions.
> 

No as it's done nationally so everyone in the entire country who took 
the exam at the same time is included regardless of who their classmates 
were i.e. your grade was dependent on how thousands and thousands of 
other students did in the entire country.