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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel... Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2024 15:10:05 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 57 Message-ID: <vbl7bs$22mmr$1@dont-email.me> References: <2024Aug30.161204@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Aug30.195831@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vat5ap$jthk$2@dont-email.me> <vaunhb$vckc$1@dont-email.me> <vautmu$vr5r$1@dont-email.me> <2024Aug31.170347@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vavpnh$13tj0$2@dont-email.me> <vb00c2$150ia$1@dont-email.me> <505954890d8461c1f4082b1beecd453c@www.novabbs.org> <vb0kh2$12ukk$1@dont-email.me> <vb3smg$1ta6s$1@dont-email.me> <vb4q5o$12ukk$3@dont-email.me> <vb6a16$38aj5$1@dont-email.me> <vb7evj$12ukk$4@dont-email.me> <vb8587$3gq7e$1@dont-email.me> <vb91e7$3o797$1@dont-email.me> <vb9eeh$3q993$1@dont-email.me> <vb9l7k$3r2c6$2@dont-email.me> <vba26l$3te44$1@dont-email.me> <vbag2s$3vhih$1@dont-email.me> <vbbnf9$8j04$1@dont-email.me> <vbbsl4$9hdg$1@dont-email.me> <vbcbob$bd22$3@dont-email.me> <vbcob9$dvp4$1@dont-email.me> <vbg0e8$v9mi$2@dont-email.me> <a3e7614794a11b67739888bcaa7e734a@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 00:10:05 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a3d1d68c17abf34994c0af4a498168c2"; logging-data="2185947"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Za69pFylOS/nWx4XaKqfagQGOHEYUKyI=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5oSGXFp3Uz8MKHQrTR8WmP945yY= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <a3e7614794a11b67739888bcaa7e734a@www.novabbs.org> Bytes: 3955 On 9/6/2024 4:10 PM, MitchAlsup1 wrote: > On Fri, 6 Sep 2024 22:41:12 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> On 9/5/2024 10:04 AM, Terje Mathisen wrote: >>> David Brown wrote: >>>> On 05/09/2024 11:12, Terje Mathisen wrote: >>>>> David Brown wrote: >>>>>> Unsigned types are ideal for "raw" memory access or external data, >>>>>> for anything involving bit manipulation (use of &, |, ^, << and >> >>>>>> on signed types is usually wrong, IMHO), as building blocks in >>>>>> extended arithmetic types, for the few occasions when you want two's >>>>>> complement wrapping, and for the even fewer occasions when you >>>>>> actually need that last bit of range. >>>>> >>>>> That last paragraph enumerates pretty much all the uses I have for >>>>> integer-type variables, with (like Mitch) a few apis that use (-1) as >>>>> an error signal that has to be handled with special code. >>>>> >>>> >>>> You don't have loop counters, array indices, or integer arithmetic? >>> >>> Loop counters of the for (i= 0; i < LIMIT; i++) type are of course fine >>> with unsigned i, arrays always use a zero base so in Rust the only array >>> index type is usize, i.e the largest supported unsigned type in the >>> system, typically the same as u64. >>> >>> unsigned arithmetic is easier than signed integer arithmetic, including >>> comparisons that would result in a negative value, you just have to make >>> the test before subtracting, instead of checking if the result was >>> negative. >>> >>> I.e I cannot easily replicate a downward loop that exits when the >>> counter become negative: >>> >>> for (int i = START; i >= 0; i-- ) { >>> // Do something with data[i] >>> } >> >> for (int i = START; i > -1; i-- ) { >> // Do something with data[i] >> } >> >> ;^) > > # define START 0x80000001 [...] In reverse? ;^) ______________ std::size_t n = m_lock_idxs.size(); for (std::size_t i = 0; i < n; ++i) { m_mtx_tbl.m_locks[m_lock_idxs[n - i - 1]].unlock(); } ______________