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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 17:08:49 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <vbn322$2em19$1@dont-email.me> References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <5d8b4ac0-3060-40df-8534-3e04bb77c12d@att.net> <vb6o0r$3a4m1$2@dont-email.me> <7e1e3f62-1fba-4484-8e34-6ff8f1e54625@att.net> <vbabbm$24a94$1@solani.org> <06ee7920-eff2-4687-be98-67a89b301c93@att.net> <38ypmjbnu3EfnKYR4tSIu-WavbA@jntp> <34e11216-439f-4b11-bdff-1a252ac98f8f@att.net> <vbd56i$fqa0$1@dont-email.me> <vbdbq3$gdoe$2@dont-email.me> <vbes57$qdqo$2@dont-email.me> <27b3b5e088d82d4475c68a64f50a4bccac9c6f29@i2pn2.org> <vbesjo$27gfe$1@solani.org> <vbf0s9$qp1j$3@dont-email.me> <vbfpf5$utdu$2@dont-email.me> <vbh5qe$19a45$1@dont-email.me> <vbhdf6$1btm1$1@dont-email.me> <vbhdsh$1btm1$2@dont-email.me> <vbhj65$1bi3k$3@dont-email.me> <9eeba8a5041ce7ee48e5019d9e98d4ea38a1eb72@i2pn2.org> <vbhkmo$1bi3l$8@dont-email.me> <89ed6d8de6c20d65e869d384181b642309f63bc4@i2pn2.org> <vbkv1r$20uoi$4@dont-email.me> <7a991922c09e309450ac278f884091dfe716cae3@i2pn2.org> <vbmij2$2ce0a$4@dont-email.me> <20d29fc87d2bab70a7a7c18a3f79b093a4c2b647@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 17:08:50 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cd14fc04a24dd051d3dbc2b7b6e5cc4c"; logging-data="2578473"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19+8vWJuPtzQdyp+ZJbHRKrQetkWQRq6BM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:XTHKI+ptsxlwu8sKoIJoQstg0Ak= In-Reply-To: <20d29fc87d2bab70a7a7c18a3f79b093a4c2b647@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3527 On 09.09.2024 13:49, joes wrote: > Am Mon, 09 Sep 2024 12:27:47 +0200 schrieb WM: >> On 08.09.2024 22:11, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 9/8/24 3:48 PM, WM wrote: >> >>>> Select any gap between one of the first ℵo unit fractions and its >>>> neighbour. Call its size x. Then ℵo unit fractions cannot fit into the >>>> interval (0, x), independent of the actual size. >>> But that is changing the value of x in the middle of the problem which >>> isn't allowed. >>> Given that new x, we can choose a new set of Aleph_0 unit fractions >>> below that x. >> ℵo unit fractions are claimed to be smaller than every x > 0. If that is >> true then I can choose as the x one of the ℵo intervals between two of >> them. > More precisely: every positive x has infinitely many smaller unit > fractions (mind the quantifier order). The quantifier order related to the problem is this: NUF(x) = ℵo means: There exist ℵo unit fractions smaller than any x > 0. If this is not true, then there are fewer. How many unit fractions are smaller than any x > 0. THAT is the question. None. But all are differente. Hence there must be a first one smaller than all other unit fractions. Note that real points are in question. Real points fixed on the real line. > A number is not an interval. An interval has a length that can be expressed by a real number: 1/n - 1/(n+1) = x . Then the interval (0, x) contains not all unit fractions, for instance not 1/n. Regards, WM >