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"X, formerly known as "!Jones"" <x@y.com> wrote in message 
news:i7dndj5030p1s2gse3g5pdhf2ba7dcvp8i@4ax.com...
> If you have a medical emergency, stop reading, log off, and dial 911!
>
>>Define "gun buying splurges." Show us a graph of splurges vs violence.
>>
>>Define "gun violence". Is it an absolute value, or relative to populate?
>>
>>Would you be willing to submit to a "Power Slap"?
>
> Well, you have concisely stated the problem.  One side wants to count
> self inflicted gunshot wounds (SIGW) as gun violence and one doesn't.
> Since SIGW account for the lion's share of gun deaths (more so in
> developed countries, but over 50% worldwide) counting them or not
> makes a *huge* difference.

Well, and we can also consider that suicide, serious suicide that is, has 
been shown to be nearly totally means independent.
If they can't use their first choice, they will go with their second, or 
their third, but they will attempt suicide and as a serious attempt at 
suicide the attempt is almost always successful. This is opposed to those 
seeking attention for their issues and aren't really intending suicide other 
than perhaps by accident.


>
> Here's one: can anyone define a "DGU"?

Sure legally defending one's self or others from a violent attack in which 
death or serious injury appears to be the intent.

In extreme cases it doesn't even have to be totally legal. Even a convicted 
felon can use a gun in self defense.. and be legally justified in their 
actions.