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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: piglet <erichpwagner@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Instead scopes Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 19:51:52 +0100 Organization: A noisesome patent Spinner Lines: 47 Message-ID: <vbng48$2gmfl$1@dont-email.me> References: <4vtrcjpl9sp0lurrtf3ldcmhm58de156oo@4ax.com> <val7f8$33hu3$1@dont-email.me> <8f2tcj1832r0m6872hvp1fcrv8hsf3chsh@4ax.com> <vam90i$3bn2f$1@dont-email.me> <gjeucj5a7skeruudj8qcujc1f9b9t9o26r@4ax.com> <vanf8s$3h5er$1@dont-email.me> <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com> <vap20i$1s5cl$1@solani.org> <8dv0djhj73b0ejudpkahnojgjk30i9rrbv@4ax.com> <je01dj177m9p0q25en4k2jm8u0bsj07t2j@4ax.com> <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me> <vaq762$1ssg1$1@solani.org> <vb163a$1dt9b$1@dont-email.me> <0ns8djtqe7ct4k21h8ubnj944fonq9i0u0@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2024 20:51:52 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="75bdf99a976b62a8f6496bf4aeb24a0d"; logging-data="2644469"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+d3mzTwfYfr9PzxlmZCpZM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:/D85hOIQ7JL3O7/FDrmY7U9Qb/I= Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <0ns8djtqe7ct4k21h8ubnj944fonq9i0u0@4ax.com> Bytes: 3247 On 01/09/2024 3:09 pm, john larkin wrote: > On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> > wrote: > >> On 30/08/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:43:39 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman >>> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me>: >>> >>>> It's lot easier and quicker to bread-board a circuit in LTSpice than it >>>> is to wire up a test circuit, but what that means is that you need to >>>> make fewer real circuits and they are a lot more likely to work when tested. >>>> >>>> That, on it's own, is enough to explain why labs look different today >>>> than they did in the dark ages. >>> >>> All it explains is boeings falling apart and astronuts ending up stuck at the ISS >>> and no moonlanding from the US, not even a probe. >>> Slimulations are _not_ realty and never will be. >> >> But they can capture useful parts of reality, if you know what you are >> doing. >> >> John Larkin's simulated inductors tend not to have any parallel capacitance. > > The trick is to know when it matters. ESR and core loss are usually > more important. > > I designed this surface-mount inductor for my Pockels Cell driver, > after several tries using commercial parts. They all smoked. > > It's wound on a specially marked Sharpie pen that we have carefully > reserved. > > https://www.highlandtechnology.com/Product/T850 > > The grey gap-pad gives it some extra cooling. The board has lots of > thermal vias down to the water-cooled baseplate. > > > That sharpie formed coil looks like the turn-to-turn air-spacing is done by eyeball? Can you find a bolt or screw with right pitch and diameter to make winding easier? piglet