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From: Bobbie Sellers <blissInSanFrancisco@mouse-potato.com>
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Subject: Re: Odd Dissonance - Trump is Pro-Pot but DeSantis Anti
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 08:28:18 -0700
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On 9/9/24 22:36, 186282@ud0s4.net wrote:
> On 9/10/24 12:46 AM, Grimble Crumble wrote:
>> 186282@ud0s4.net <186283@ud0s4.net> wrote:
>>> https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/09/donald-trump-marijuana-legalization-ron-desantis-00177958
>>>
>>> Donald Trump said he supports loosening federal marijuana
>>> restrictions and will vote for a Florida ballot initiative
>>> seeking to legalize the drug for adult use just hours after
>>> Gov. Ron DeSantis warned hundreds of church goers
>>
>> I love how this is phrased
>>
>>> that the measure would create an invincible drug cartel in
>>> their shared home state.
>>>
>>> Trump already signaled his support for the legalization
>>> measure, which will appear on the November ballot as
>>> Amendment 3, during a Truth Social message posted in late
>>> August. The former president and GOP presidential nominee
>>> more explicitly endorsed it with another message posted
>>> late Sunday.
>>>

	He just figures that it will make it easier to
govern a nation of potheads (will he be surprised) than
a nation of sober and alcoholic people. Besides it will
get him some votes from libertarians.


>>>
>>>    While too much weed does seem to make people kinda
>>>    stupid, at this point in time keeping it illegal
>>>    is kind of ridiculous.
>>
>> Exactly, weed is not a "gateway drug" like people like to say. I don't do
>> weed, so I don't have first hand experience. But, from the studies that I
>> have read, it seems that it's way less dangerous than people assume (less
>> dangerous than alcohol at least).
> 
>    Most of our best authors were big alcoholics, so it
>    is difficult to condemn alcohol. Ain't great for
>    you, but neither are Big Macs or Cheeze Whiz.

	The real problem so far with alcohol is that attempts
to ban it, search on the Prohibition of Alcohol which only lasted
a short time but contributed millions to the coffers of the crime
lord, oh excuse me, the criminal entrepreneurs.  It created legends
of heroic rum runners and the like. What finished is off was that
the criminals diluted it with wood alcohol and killed and blinded
a lot of people. That aroused the medical community who came out
for ending prohibition.
	
	Ending Prohibition created problems for the Enforcement
agency, i.e. the Federal Bureau of Narcotics.  They wanted to grow
the agency not see it wither away so Harry J.Anslinger in 1937
(the year of my birth) got a  bill passed to put an extravagant tax
on all hemp therefore cannabis production.  His agency was of course
was charged with implementation of the new law.

	Before this time tincture of Cannabis, USP was used
for all the things for which people take prescribed psychoactive
drugs.  Turned out the barbiturates were far worse than the
illegal drugs.

	Ending the Prohibition of Alcohol caused ancillary
problems. For example in NY State and other states regulation
of alcohol was turned over to agencies staffed by homopphobes
who had been trying to shut down gay life for some time.
They made it illegal for any homosexuals to drink at a legal
bar and that is why the Gay Bars of New York City were being
run by the Mafia which lead to the Stonewall Riots which
was the recrudesce of the Gay legalization movement started
even early but suppressed by the Repeal of Prohibition and
then WW II0.

 >> The real gateway drug is Xanax

	Fiddle-faddle- Probably the gateway drug is some
thing like St.Joseph's Aspirin for children but in studies
it was shown that smoked tobacco was the route to ruin.
You might want to check out Lenny Bruce had to say back in
the 1960s about St.Joseph's Aspirin.

> 
>     Never taken any. However I doubt it's really more
>     or less a "gateway" drug than anything else. It's
>     just that a large percentage are keen on getting
>     high and that's that, no "gateways" needed.
> 
>>>    Once again, Trump shows himself as a sensible MODERATE
>>>    rather than the 'fascist' of the leftist propaganda.
>>
>> Yes
> 
>    But the MSM will NEVER admit it  :-)
> 
>>>    The DeSantis concern is not entirely moot - however
>>>    in states that have legalized, weed-related cartels
>>>    have neither gained or lost ground. Besides, most of
>>>    the cartels are now into the high-profit/volume
>>>    ultra-addictive stuff - meth, fentanyl and worse.
>>>    Weed is a bulky low-profit drug.
>>
>> What instead happens, is that a bunch of local legal businesses
>> (dispensaries) show up, which actually helps the local economy out. The
>> perk of weed being legal, is that it could be regulated more effectively
>> than being banned outright.
> 
> 
>    Legalization doesn't seem to help, or hurt, nearly
>    as much as extreme elements predict. There's still
>    an illegal weed market even in 'legal' states -
>    mostly supplying stuff either stronger than state
>    standards or to the teen set. However with legalization
>    the state DOES get something of a cut rather than just
>    wasting endless time and money trying to suppress the
>    un-suppressible product.

	Well no one has stronger drugs than the dispensaries.
	I mean you can get smokable preparations (hash and oil)
which are at the limits of possibility.  The illegal dealers
are selling cheaper since their customers don't have to pay
state or excise taxes on the product.

> 
> 
>>>    If DeSantis does want to do something useful then it
>>>    would be to ban those candy-looking THC treats so
>>>    the little kiddies won't keep OD'ing on them.
> 
>    Hey ... make them look like Brussels Sprouts !  :-)
> 
	Where have Kiddies been ODing on gummy candies?
or even on KIVA chocolate bars. Most users with children
have paid so much for the recreational or medicational
material that they take good care to keep it away from
animals and small children.

	bliss

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