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Subject: Re: Visualizing
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On Mon, 09 Sep 2024 06:02:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje wrote:

> On a sunny day (Sun, 08 Sep 2024 09:39:49 -0700) it happened john larkin
> <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in
> <2jkrdjpqtffrre9u5q9p862sdo9k3lk809@4ax.com>:
> 
>>On Sun, 08 Sep 2024 06:44:05 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On a sunny day (Sat, 07 Sep 2024 07:39:46 -0700) it happened john
>>>larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote in
>>><mbpodjl90u9ngibm2pb45uv9bbojvkfirr@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 07 Sep 2024 07:04:13 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On a sunny day (Fri, 6 Sep 2024 15:08:34 -0000 (UTC)) it happened
>>>>>Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in
>>>>><vbf5ti$s3c0$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was driving and listening to the local mostly-annoying NPR radio
>>>>>>> station, but they had an interesting interview with a book author.
>>>>>>> It was about his novel or some poetry or something.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What was interesting was his recalling a conversation that he'd
>>>>>>> had with his wife. She was takling about a plant or something and
>>>>>>> asked him to visualize it. He was astounded that she, or anyone,
>>>>>>> could close their eyes and *see* something they were thinking
>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I was shocked to learn that there are people who can't form a
>>>>>>> mental visual image.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Close your eyes and consider a nice white ceramic dinner plate
>>>>>>> with a beautiful deep red apple sitting in the center. Can you see
>>>>>>> it? From the side and from the top? Do you see the stem? The
>>>>>>> colors? Imagine it slowly rotating? See the fruit fly?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If the world is divided between people who can visualise and
>>>>>>> people who can't, that could explain a great deal.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Or people who have a dialogue going on in their heads all the time.
>>>>>>Apparently that’s most people.
>>>>>
>>>>>I never had that.
>>>>>I do 2 hours of meditation a day.
>>>>
>>>>But you could sleep for those two hours!
>>>
>>>Maybe, dream? I hardly dream at all.. few hours of sleep is normal, 4
>>>hours or so.
>>
>>Yikes. 9 or 10 for me. When I was younger, I'd sleep for 12.
>>
>>I don't dream much that I know of, and the rare dream is just a bit of
>>everyday life. My wife has nightmares.
>>
>>I do solve problems and design stuff while I sleep, and wake up briefly
>>to take notes.
> 
> Do not even have a pen near to my bed :-)
> As to 'visualizing' sound,
> I remember you talking about alligator sounds messing with some
> measurements now imagine (visualize) a very young alligator making a
> more high pitched sound...
> There is music! rhythmhythm counts too.
> 
> Visualizing... you are in the garden, big disc like thing descends next
> to you on the grass sort of a door opens, clever looking creature steps
> out,
> says "are you John Larkin?" you acknowledge, creature asks for a Ge PNP
> transistor to fix his disc ..
> you have none, wants to help fix his spacecraft, creature shows his
> electronic box with all sorts of stuff in it, little blobs covering
> little chips funny connectors, joystick for steering his disc and a
> picture of his Ohm planet...
> you design a replacement circuit for the GE PNP ... solder it in place,
> creature is grateful and gives you a little box , goes back in the disc
> and warps away You open the box and see
>  Russian doll Matroesjka ?
> 
> After posting about China wanting to do a Mars return here,
> now ELon wants to do a manned Mars mission before 2028 I just did read.
> It is all over the net:
>  https://www.notebookcheck.net/Elon-Musk-pegs-the-first-human-flight-to-
Mars-for-2028-with-a-colony-to-follow-in-20-years.885865.0.html

Elon Musk is the Henry Ford of his day, Jan. A true pioneer. The fact that 
his business managed to survive all those catastrophic car fires whilst 
the occupants were locked inside by the car's brain testifies to that 
achievement.