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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Gaps... ;^) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 13:39:45 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 85 Message-ID: <vbqaqh$3527h$6@dont-email.me> References: <vbnul9$2it6e$3@dont-email.me> <vbo3rs$2jh3v$1@dont-email.me> <vbq385$33j9p$1@dont-email.me> <vbq6ca$34b4u$1@dont-email.me> <vbqa3o$3527h$3@dont-email.me> <vbqak1$34b4u$8@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 22:39:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0eac113f4bd26321cfce58ecec11144e"; logging-data="3311857"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/uZ7tXXR9J4MWD8E3xzpERY/cC55xQZ/0=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:f5hQn6Imc196upy1g/7SufxmChE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vbqak1$34b4u$8@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3559 On 9/10/2024 1:36 PM, Moebius wrote: > Am 10.09.2024 um 22:27 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >> On 9/10/2024 12:23 PM, Moebius wrote: >>> Am 10.09.2024 um 20:30 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >>>> On 9/9/2024 5:28 PM, Moebius wrote: >>>>> Am 10.09.2024 um 00:59 schrieb Chris M. Thomasson: >>>>> >>>>>> Between zero and any positive x there is a unit fraction small >>>>>> enough to fit in the ["]gap["]. >>>>> >>>>> Right. This follows from the so called "Archimedean property" of >>>>> the reals. From this property we get: >>>>> >>>>> For all x e IR, x > 0, there is an n e IN such that 1/n < x. >>>>> >>>>> See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedean_property >>>>> >>>>> Of course, from this we get that there are infinitely many unit >>>>> fractions smaller than x, say, 1/n, 1/(n + 1), 1/(n + 2), 1/(n + >>>>> 3), ... >>>>> >>>>> We can even refer to such unit fraction "in terms of x": >>>>> >>>>> All of the following (infinitely many) unit fractions are smaller >>>>> than x: 1/ceil(1/x + 1), 1/ceil(1/x + 2), 1/ceil(1/x + 3), ... >>>>> >>>>>> Between x and any y that is different than it (x), there will be a >>>>>> unit fraction to fit into the gap. infinitely many.... :^) >>>>> >>>>> Nope. There is no unit fraction (strictly) between, say, 1/2 and 1/1. >>>> >>>> What about 1/4? Ahhhh! You mentioned the word _strictly_. Okay. >>>> >>>> Humm... Well, if we play some "games" ;^), then 1/4 would sit in the >>>> center of the gap between 1/2 and 1/1 where: >>> >>> Really? >>> >>> ??? 1/2 < 1/4 < 1/1 ??? >>> >>> Are you sure? >>> >>> 0.5 < 0.25 < 1 >>> >>> Hmmm...? >>> >>>>> In other words, there is no unit fraction u such that 1/2 < u < 1/1. >>> >>> Concerning 1/4, in my book (of numbers): >>> >>> 1/4 < 1/2 < 1/1. :-P >>> >>> It's clear that you have/had 3/4 in mind. (i.e. 1/2 + 1/4. :-) >>> >>> But 3/4 is't a unit fraction. :-P >>> >>> >> >> Still the gap between 1/1 and 1/2 is equal to 1/2. > > I guess you mean the LENGTH of the gap. > > Your "gap" is automatically translated to "interval" by me. > >> There are infinite unit fractions that are smaller than the > > length of the > >> gap [interval]? > > RIGHT! :-) > > Also, think about normalizing the gaps as in: p0 = 1/2 p1 = 1/1 pdif = p1 - p0 the mid point would use the unit fraction 1/2 at: pmid = p0 + pdif * 1/2 right?