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From: Mark J cleary <mcleary08@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: 16 weeks shaky to say the least
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 16:08:45 -0500
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Actually my fitness is pretty good and I came back to ride the indoor 
trainer to get some kind of work out. I could not pedal in a efficient 
manner to get anywhere near tired or winded. I did think about using the 
pedals inside to get better but it is still not the same. My problem is 
my cardio is is good and efficient. Also I add doing weight work with my 
arms. I doing curls and bench press and lift out with 8 pound weights.

I needed to do that to get my right arm and shoulder strengthen up after 
broken collarbone. Right now I am stronger in the arms than 
per-accident. I was doing therapy for my right hand after the metacarpal 
pinning surgery. I was released and my grip strength was 95 pounds in 
left hand and 90 in the right. The therapist thought I probably would 
get even stronger. The normal grip strength of a 63 year old is from 
70-100 pounds so I am at the higher end at least.

As as working jazz guitarist and luthier my hands are pretty strong and 
grip on fretting hand. I went from not being able to open a twist top 
beer bottle after pins removed to twisting it off with no trouble in 
about 3 weeks.

My issue is the foraminal stenosis but not going to do anything with 
that like surgery or far as long as I can do other stuff. Back surgery 
is at best hit and miss. They found the foraminal stenosis on MRI 11 
years ago so I am sure it is worse. I don't want to know. They told me 
then my running days were maybe over but I keep at it for 6 more years. 
My family dr said he did not think it would keep me from running then 
and he was correct. However at 63 I have to be careful now.

As a kid we fall and simple get back up and take off. At 20 we fall and 
get up and shake it off a bit and continue. At 40 we take it easy 
getting up and then take some time off to heal up. At 63 we hope we are 
able to get back up and function at some point in the future

Deacon Mark


On 9/10/2024 3:00 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:
> On 9/10/2024 12:42 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:
>> Ok had the big crash 05/20/24 (other thread explains.) Broken 
>> collarbone, hand, and great trochanter too. The great trochanter was 
>> not found in original x ray only a month ago. Not displaced but hurts 
>> in some positions. I have been riding indoor train pretty much with 
>> maybe 4 weeks off during parts of recovery. I ride usually 25-35 miles 
>> inside. Use my regular clipless pedals.
>>
>> Today first ride outside in 16 weeks I have some sciatica in my right 
>> leg, the one with broken trochanter. Stopping and simply standing on 
>> the leg and unclipping had me worried. My leg can give out in certain 
>> positions so very cautious. I bought some flat pedals with spikes 
>> thinking that would be easier to deal with. However, today I did a 
>> 25-mile ride out in the country stay away from anything potentially 
>> problematic. Well now I cannot ride in flat pedals I was completely 
>> off. Could not get a groove going because my shoe keeps hitting the 
>> cranks at various points and sometimes, I overpower pushing down and 
>> simply cannot pedal smoothly at all or least for very long.
>>
>> My first question is if anyone else has ever done this going back to 
>> flat pedals and cannot use them well? Second question is I think the 
>> trochanter is not so bad of a problem. but the sciatic nerve touchy so 
>> feel unbalance stopping to dismount. My sciatic nerve does not hurt so 
>> much at all but just the tingling on the outside of leg going down to 
>> foot. Does not go numb and my back does not hurt. Anyone deal with 
>> this issue?
>> __________________
> 
> 
> It seems to me that it might be wiser at this point to put the flat 
> pedals on the indoor bike and practice your pedaling technique. When you 
> can use them comfortably indoors, put them on your outdoor bike and take 
> it for short rides to better fine-tune. FWIW - 25 miles was probably a 
> bit ambitious to start off with. No matter what anyone tells you, riding 
> outside _is_ different - you're engaging significantly more core and 
> stability muscles keeping the bike upright than when it's locked into a 
> trainer. The added muscular engagement can reveal problems you don't 
> have indoors.
> 
> I'd also suggest consulting at least an exercise physiologist about the 
> tingling. As you noted in your reply to Andrew, it could be any number 
> of things, but experiencing a nerve sensation could be an indication 
> from anything as simple as a pulled muscle that hasn't healed to a 
> microfracture in a vertebrae that was missed in any of the various 
> scans. Performing a repetitive motion when it happens can lead to 
> serious other issues from over compensation of non-injured 
> skeletal-muscular structures, worst-case leading to possible permanent 
> injury in those areas as well.
> 
> 

-- 
Deacon Mark