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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: jseigh <jseigh_es00@xemaps.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: is Vax addressing sane today Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 07:48:36 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: <vbs02k$3inlm$1@dont-email.me> References: <vbd6b9$g147$1@dont-email.me> <09ce1622b872f0b0fa944e868a8c97be@www.novabbs.org> <vbnisc$2hb59$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep10.094353@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vbqtc0$10j8$2@gal.iecc.com> <vbra9e$3esph$1@dont-email.me> <2024Sep11.082455@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 13:48:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0f92e8bdce6dbef9a4bcdf2858736cda"; logging-data="3759798"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/FzTvpALNO0h9t8yoOfCLJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:dzd1YDoCGsIKE53LUcV5Ewe96QE= In-Reply-To: <2024Sep11.082455@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 1987 On 9/11/2024 2:24 AM, Anton Ertl wrote: > Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> writes: >> John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> schrieb: >>> S/360 had signed and unsigned adds in the 1960s, with optional >>> trapping for signed overflow. OS/360 let you catch the traps and z >>> still does but it is not my impression that many programs did or do. >> >> With trapping, I understand. Without trapping - what is the >> difference on a two's complement machine? > > Possibly in the flags set. The S/360 has a pretty perverse flags > architecture. In the EC PSW from my yellow card bit 20 fixed-point overflow mask bit 21 decimal overflow mask bit 22 exponent overflow mask bit 23 significance mask BC mode was bits 36 thru 39. Joe Seigh