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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!usenet.goja.nl.eu.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?= <hugybear@gmx.net> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: whatsapp interoperability Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 18:55:17 +0200 Organization: Camembert Normand au Lait Cru Message-ID: <vbsi1l$42eg$1@solani.org> References: <lk16jsFrc4qU3@mid.individual.net> <lk3rldF97p4U1@mid.individual.net> <lk3rvcF85pkU3@mid.individual.net> <lk8tjgF2385U1@mid.individual.net> <86ttemlcml.fsf@example.com> <lkdtt9Fp3gkU1@mid.individual.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2024 16:55:17 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="133584"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:115.0) Gecko/20100101 Betterbird/115.15.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:E6B3ev9TazMHn8DW9U4PNmSw+/0= X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBwDAIA0BLQEgoctYH/xJ2R8h1KkUlh6NvL3uROnCrl7cmBIz3KKxokStOF3Y7ifsDBpcP5A== Content-Language: de-CH, en-GB In-Reply-To: <lkdtt9Fp3gkU1@mid.individual.net> Bytes: 2557 Lines: 32 On 11.09.24 18:13, s|b wrote: > On Wed, 11 Sep 2024 11:15:46 +0100, Richmond wrote: > >> Whatsapp uses the Signal protocol. How did they make open source into >> closed source? "The Signal Protocol is licensed under the GNU Affero >> General Public License (AGPLv3). This license requires that the complete >> source code of the licensed work and any modifications be made available >> under the same license." > > I don't know the details, but someone explained it like this: > > A Signal user sends a message to a WA user. The encryption is: > > aZ*2 > > When it reaches the servers at WA something gets added: > > aZ*2[Vy*3] > > This way data could be gathered by Meta. Meta doesn't give access to > Signal to check if something like this doesn't happen. > > I don't know if I'm explaining correctly, but if Signal doesn't want to > cooperate they must have a damn good reason. No: Signal has absolutely no intention to break their encryption which is a condition for interoperability. Would Signal do that I would drop it immediately. Signal uses an end-to-end-encryption which WA does not really. Alternative suppliers like Signal, Threema, iMsg or Telegram would commit immediate suicide if they would follow that route. -- "De gustibus non est disputandum."