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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: The trip to France, Germany and Switzerland
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 07:34:35 -0700
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On 2024-09-12 05:16, -hh wrote:
> On 9/11/24 10:51 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-09-11 19:39, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 9/11/2024 5:17 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-09-10 15:54, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Riquewihr is similar and was the either/or choice, as we also 
>>>>>>> visited Srasbourg too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There's a lot of such small towns w/wineries in the Alsace 
>>>>>>> region; I think we have a Karen Brown guidebook which has a 
>>>>>>> couple of self- driving routes that's on the "to do" list .. my 
>>>>>>> basic conclusion is that if one wants to get to such small 
>>>>>>> villages, it is better done with a rental car than by mass 
>>>>>>> transit as we had done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Forgot to mention that I've looked into the "ship some home" too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem I ran into are that State regulations on shipping of 
>>>>>> alcohol vary, and NJ is a "nope!" state.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For hand-carrying, the last time that I can recall packing some 
>>>>>> 750ml wine bottles into checked baggage was from Budapest, and 
>>>>>> their security folk (at least I hope it was them!) either didn't 
>>>>>> have TSA keys, or didn't care:  they just cut all the locks off.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Indiana is OK since about 5 years back. We carry wine home in 
>>>>> checked bags from Europe every trip, never had an issue. The record 
>>>>> is 7 bottles spread across 3 check bags. We do not lock our bags. 
>>>>> You just reminded me why. Those are flimsy locks that do no real good.
>>>>
>>>> And you're paying the tax and duty on those bottles, I assume.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>> Yes, that's why shipping is so expensive.
>>
>> But you just talked about carrying wine home in your checked bags.
>>
>> That's not what anyone I know calls "shipping".
> 
> Its another illustration of the trade-offs.
> 
> Carrying them home falls under the US customs $800/person exemption, if 
> one is within the volume limits too.  Even so, the duty rates on 
> overages isn't onerous .. something like 50 cents per wine bottle.
> 
> Shipping has no exemption provision (you're not traveling "with" it).
> Plus as I noted, it can be prohibited by State law...and it had been 
> prohibited to be shipped via USPS (Federal Postal laws), so one has to 
> look to the private services (FedEx/UPS/DHL) for transportation.
Is there not also a specific restriction about alcohol? There certainly 
is in Canada.

:-)