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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Multics paging, Address bits again, Article on new mainframe use Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 02:55:59 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <vc09ju$ljiq$3@dont-email.me> References: <vb9r4g$2o1f$1@gal.iecc.com> <77d899f5feb9f06f611267885d157ad7@www.novabbs.org> <vbvm99$i56$1@gal.iecc.com> <vbvp59$esm6$5@dont-email.me> <vc07aa$2rd5$1@gal.iecc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 04:55:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fe8eaca0c36637cab02c0b5baab677cf"; logging-data="708186"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+fnAubaCHw1eEpf+zOzyGq" User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9i8BqKXBG0s6y2qzMRhdO/Y9uTo= Bytes: 1752 On Fri, 13 Sep 2024 02:16:42 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: > According to Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>: >> >>On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 21:26:01 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote: >> >>> The other choice would have been a page table per segment, like >>> Multics did. >> >>Remember that Multics segments all existed within a common, directly >>linearly-addressable address space. > > Sigh. Why guess wrong when it is so easy to look up the real answer? > > https://bitsavers.org/pdf/ge/GE-645/LSB0468_GE-645_System_Manual_Jan1968.pdf Nothing in there that contradicts what I’ve said. Note that segment sizes are 18 bits, while memory addresses are 24 bits.