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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: 2024 Hugo Award Winners Emily Tesh Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 18:38:20 +1200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <vc0ml1$o2ja$1@dont-email.me> References: <v9bc55$ce4$1@panix2.panix.com> Reply-To: noone@nowhere.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 08:38:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="05571bb5bf6feedb11b3f4e904633516"; logging-data="789098"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+XfnT8mGRdqMh686tkt42o" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:U4FxnEuSSaG5eIzjj7n9bLdCTaY= Content-Language: en-AU In-Reply-To: <v9bc55$ce4$1@panix2.panix.com> Bytes: 3931 On 12/08/24 09:57, James Nicoll wrote: > Best Novel: Some Desperate Glory by Emily Tesh (Tordotcom, Orbit UK) > I enjoyed it initially with several complaints but might have thrown it at the wall about half way through if it hadn't been a Hugo Award winner. I have not read the other contenders but the standard of writing, the lack of a science background evident in limited vocabulary and frequent difficulty to suspend disbelief did not even hint at award nomination. Umpteen galaxies with several aliens are controlled by the "Wisdom", an alien AI self-developed over thousands of years which destroyed Earth and its fourteen billion remaining inhabitants. Our female white protagonist is a fascist freedom fighter living outside the Wisdom's influence with just thousands of other humans though there is a planet, predominantly human in some other solar system. Here is some science. Irris is a scioactive substance vital to the construction of the gigantic shadow engines. In its unprocessed form [it] is highly volatile, particularly in the subreal dimensions which Wisdom systems rely on. "The Wisdom was a transtemporal and pandimensional intelligence capable of shaping the fates of trillions." “It would help if anyone, literally anyone in the entire universe, understood how the Wisdom really works.” [The Wisdom could be and was controlled by aliens and humans but the handwavium was very strong there.] Here is some political comment. ....self-described democracy. Outsiders, and some human dissidents, consider this an empty label; although human government includes democratic elements (indeed it is hard to find times when humans are not voting for something) these are, by and large, window dressing. Humans themselves will cynically point out that no popular vote is ever taken unless those in power already know what the answer will be. [Which all had little reference to the story - just background.] The social comment is even worse. It began as several fantasies do, with our youthful racist, homophobic, fascist protagonist being the fastest, the most skilled fighter and the cleverest female trainee. Co-incidentally her brother filled the same role for males. Both characters were shallow with the abrupt change in Kyr ludicrous. A third of the way through, page 150, we learn the brother is homosexual and 120 pages later, that the protagonist has lesbian inclinations. There is no porn but this data was not necessary for the plot nor the characters and there was little discussion of racism, sexism or anything much. The "Wisdom" is literally a God in a machine, one that makes frequent appearances. Even though the themes were treated simplistically and the characters shallow and immature, I am generously giving it two stars.