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From: Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk>
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Subject: Re: Hotmail account
Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 18:35:38 +0100
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Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2024-09-13, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-09-12, Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> I use iOS 16.7.10 Mail app with a Microsoft Hotmail account. MS
>>>>>> insist on "modern authentication methods" and keep telling me that
>>>>>> my account won't be accessible after September 16th with just user
>>>>>> name and password. I have to get an app with "modern authentication
>>>>>> methods"!  What the devil are those? And will Mail app have them?
>>>>>
>>>>> You could try following Microsoft's instructions:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/modern-authentication-methods-now-needed-to-continue-syncing-outlook-email-in-non-microsoft-email-apps-c5d65390-9676-4763-b41f-d7986499a90d>
>>>>
>>>> It's all a question of using OAuth2 authentication.  I hope iOS Mail
>>>> will incorporate this.
>>>>
>>>> Thunderbird under Windows does. I won't have to delete the account and
>>>> reset it up there. I just change to OAuth2. A good guide for Apple to
>>>> follow.
>>>
>>> You didn't scroll down far enough. There are instructions for Apple Mail
>>> on that same page.
>>
>> You didn't read my post properly.
>> I don't have to delete the account with Thunderbird, but I do with Apple
>> Mail, at least according to that website.
> 
> You're acting like deleting and recreating the account is a big hassle
> when it isn't. Sure, it'd be nice to just toggle a switch, but doing it
> the way Microsoft recommends isn't some horribly laborious task either.
> 

Not laborious, but seemingly excessive; especially compared with 
T.bird's far simpler method of switching to OAuth2.
The latter seems user-friendly, the Apple way doesn't, given that the 
change is merely to OAuth2 authentication.

Remember that iPads are owned by lots and lots of people who are far 
from computer-savvy. They'll have to note down all the account details, 
re-input them all carefully; and, if there are many like some of my 
clients, they'll stumble a few times.

Ed