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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: connected lights Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 13:48:19 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 99 Message-ID: <vc21di$10hlu$1@dont-email.me> References: <NfYDO.437045$VK2e.110808@fx01.ams4> <vbq12l$3376h$1@dont-email.me> <5l0EO.497929$v0Jd.164943@fx06.ams4> <vbqnm3$37v20$1@dont-email.me> <emkEO.201680$kpic.80347@fx15.ams4> <rpr3ejt34mgh4ok31fm079ea1pppce4tvh@4ax.com> <vbsvph$3pk1g$5@dont-email.me> <vbt2df$3qi08$1@dont-email.me> <vbt2s6$3qjev$2@dont-email.me> <vbuo7u$8isg$2@dont-email.me> <vbvi1o$d607$6@dont-email.me> <0un6ejt9tqtc56insillmc0je5mo7pl6oh@4ax.com> <vbvue1$fuma$2@dont-email.me> <vc029e$gjs6$3@dont-email.me> <vc065r$l0sd$3@dont-email.me> <vc1d41$scvq$2@dont-email.me> <TVWEO.203902$kpic.201042@fx15.ams4> <vc1f53$ssl8$1@dont-email.me> <jL_EO.385225$grz1.291350@fx03.ams4> <vc1urd$vige$2@dont-email.me> <vc1vhp$1031t$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 20:48:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a5d064370f0df74e51e601c7518bede1"; logging-data="1066686"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+RzPKF+9b9hCNp17EUgcj3" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:WqR4TTRDR264RhndDPRqy2rJl3c= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <vc1vhp$1031t$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4826 On 9/13/2024 1:16 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 9/13/2024 2:04 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 9/13/2024 12:37 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>> On 9/13/2024 8:15 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>> On 9/12/2024 8:57 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>>> On 9/12/2024 8:50 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>>>>> On 9/12/2024 6:45 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 9/12/2024 5:40 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 16:13:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>>>>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Understood. Your near-default point is "Everyone's >>>>>>>>>>> decision is correct." >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> My frequent point is "You don't need to go to >>>>>>>>>>> extremes >>>>>>>>>>> to be safe, >>>>>>>>>>> especially on a bike." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My frequent point is that safe is a subjective >>>>>>>>>> evaluation. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I feel safe on a bicycle sidepath, you don't. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You feel safe on a bicycle sidepath only if you've >>>>>>>>> got a >>>>>>>>> handgun ready to draw and fire within a second or two. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Correct. Suits his situation, in his personal >>>>>>>> evaluation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As always, when seconds matter, 911 is just twenty >>>>>>>> minutes >>>>>>>> away. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "His situation" is shared by many other path users. I'm >>>>>>> betting he's the only one so afraid as to never ride >>>>>>> without >>>>>>> his gun. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe not for those previously mugged. >>>>>> >>>>> There seems to be lack of equipment to carry a gun on a >>>>> bike, and indeed >>>>> it’s not mentioned by American YouTubers and so on. >>>>> >>>>> It appears not to be sold which suggests doesn’t really >>>>> have a market, and >>>>> you can buy all sorts of cycling accessories for you >>>>> phone and so on. >>>>> >>>>> Let alone that from how he described it, it’s a nice >>>>> pleasurable place to >>>>> ride. Doesn’t sound risky or deprived which often are >>>>> linked for well >>>>> reasons. >>>>> >>>>> That he wants to and so on, well that’s his choice and >>>>> so on but doesn’t >>>>> sound like he rides in a risky area. >>>>> >>>> Easily fabricated as Mr Tricycle has or just one click on >>>> Amazon: >>>> >>>> https://www.amazon.com/bikase-gunkase-motorcycle- >>>> subcompact-handguns/ dp/b0839m7t3y >>>> >>>> I'll bet you £1 that your local London area shop doesn't >>>> stock them. Different market entirely. >>>> >>> >>> I admire his initiative and effort to do so but that’s >>> kinda of the point, >>> I suspect that your bike shop and one’s local to Him >>> would also not stock >>> them or similar. >>> >>> As it’s just not a thing for most cyclists after all if >>> it was be more than >>> random Amazon bits. >>> >> >> We stock it and sell them occasionally. Less than inner >> tubes, but some. > > Actual numbers would tell us a lot. > Small. It's a specialty item. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971