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From: Stephen Fuld <sfuld@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Computer architects leaving Intel...
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On 9/3/2024 4:14 PM, David Brown wrote:
> On 03/09/2024 18:54, Stephen Fuld wrote:
>> On 9/2/2024 11:23 PM, David Brown wrote:
>>> On 02/09/2024 18:46, Stephen Fuld wrote:
>>>> On 9/2/2024 1:23 AM, Terje Mathisen wrote:
> 
>>>>> Anyway, that is all mostly moot since I'm using Rust for this kind 
>>>>> of programming now. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Can you talk about the advantages and disadvantages of Rust versus C?
>>>>
>>>
>>> And also for Rust versus C++ ?
>>
>> I asked about C versus Rust as Terje explicitly mentioned those two 
>> languages, but you make a good point in general.
>>
> 
> I want to know about both :-)
> 
> In my field, small-systems embedded development, C has been dominant for 
> a long time, but C++ use is increasing.  Most of my new stuff in recent 
> times has been C++.  There are some in the field who are trying out 
> Rust, so I need to look into it myself - either because it is a better 
> choice than C++, or because customers might want it.
> 
> 
>>
>>> My impression - based on hearsay for Rust as I have no experience - 
>>> is that the key point of Rust is memory "safety".  I use scare-quotes 
>>> here, since it is simply about correct use of dynamic memory and 
>>> buffers.
>>
>> I agree that memory safety is the key point, although I gather that it 
>> has other features that many programmers like.
>>
> 
> Sure.  There are certainly plenty of things that I think are a better 
> idea in a modern programming language and that make it a good step up 
> compared to C.  My key interest is in comparison to C++ - it is a step 
> up in some ways, a step down in others, and a step sideways in many 
> features.  But is it overall up or down, for /my/ uses?
> 
> Examples of things that I think are good in Rust are making variables 
> immutable by default and pattern matching.  Steps down include lack of 
> function overloading 

Rust's generic functions are not sufficient?



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