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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> Newsgroups: uk.telecom.mobile,comp.mobile.ipad,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: Does Apple normally add the UK when the EU forces Apple to care about its customers? Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:51:11 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 68 Message-ID: <vc4etv$1iqp0$1@dont-email.me> References: <vc1pl8$6df$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vc1s1i$vfjd$1@dont-email.me> <vc1sc4$vifb$1@dont-email.me> <lklmn5Fu57cU1@mid.individual.net> <vc496k$1hflv$1@dont-email.me> <xWhFO.50886$WtV9.5280@fx10.iad> <vc4dn9$1ieqo$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2024 18:51:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dbb019153dbc17ca50c8b5faaf815b17"; logging-data="1665824"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+73vsw5GEsVi6v9m8pcLwg" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Cancel-Lock: sha1:s5Jyvv9nChhUOyXJdOH1ZwX40mw= sha1:fOLcDFuvBZz1z3EHWcazGFs/u+g= Bytes: 4406 Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote: > On 2024-09-14 16:26, Alan Browne wrote: >> On 2024-09-14 11:13, Isaac Montara wrote: >>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 15:59:46 +0100, Mark Carver wrote: >>> >>>>> The new iPhone has USB-C not micro USB. >>>>> >>>> As do most (all ?) Androids made this decade ? >>> >>> As so most portable devices that need to be recharged away from home. >>> https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Charger-Charging-Tri-Outputs-Compatible/dp/B091BSG9GS/ >>> >>> Such as bluetooth speakerphones which are used with mobile devices. >>> https://www.amazon.com/1mii-Bluetooth-Speakerphone-Portable-Assistant/dp/B0BN5TJ2LC/ >>> >>> Basically all non-Apple bluetooth headphones can be charged with USB-C. >>> https://www.amazon.com/BERIBES-Bluetooth-Headphones-Microphone-Lightweight/dp/B09LYF2ST7/ >>> >>> Even wired headphones are connected to mobile devices using USB-C. >>> https://www.amazon.com/Kensington-USB-C-Hi-Fi-Headphones-K97456WW/dp/B08GPKHHPV/ >>> >>> You have to wonder why every company but Apple opted for USB-C when it's >>> only Apple who has to be legally obligated to give its users that >>> courtesy. >>> >>> Even then, Apple is only legally obligated to be nice to its EU >>> customers. >> >> The European USB-C fiasco just creates more e-waste. >> >> Apple, in its own good time, would have brought USB-C to iPhone, etc. >> Indeed, the newest iPhone would likely have been the launch USB-C >> iPhone. Instead the EU forced Apple to go a year early. >> >> All this "decision" does is create early e-waste of lightning connectors >> and some wall-warts. >> >> Government over regulating. EU! > > BOLLOCKS! The above is just yet another predictable example of Apple > propaganda & EU-bashing. The simple truth is that nearly all the other > manufacturers had already adopted the USB-C standard while it was still > voluntary, but Apple had more or less refused point blank [my caps to > highlight the overwhelming majority]: > > https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20200128IPR71205/parliament-wants-binding-rules-on-common-chargers-to-be-tabled-by-summer > > "The EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT calls on the Commission to put forward > beefed-up rules on common chargers by July 2020 at the latest. > > There is an “urgent need for EU regulatory action” to reduce electronic > waste and empower consumers to make sustainable choices, MEPS SAY IN A > RESOLUTION APPROVED BY 582 VOTES TO 40, WITH 37 ABSTENTIONS, calling for > the mandatory introduction of common chargers for all mobile devices. > > [...] > > For more than 10 years, MEPs have been demanding a common charger for > mobile phones, tablets, e-book readers and other portable devices" > > Yet, despite having over a decade to do so, Apple still hadn't complied. > Pretty much all new Apple products are now USB-C. I’m typing this on a USB-C iPad. The new iPhone 16 is also so equipped, as are I believe their new AirPod chargers. MacBooks have been USB-C powered for years - probably one of the earliest laptops to adopt the standard.