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From: Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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Subject: Re: another hint of quantum consciousness
Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 15:25:11 +1000
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On 15/09/2024 3:33 am, john larkin wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 13:03:07 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:13:10 -0700, john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://scitechdaily.com/groundbreaking-study-affirms-quantum-basis-for-consciousness-a-paradigm-shift-in-understanding-human-nature/
>>>
>>> Interesting way to define consciousness, the thing that goes away when
>>> an a general anesthetic is applied. That can be quantified.
>>
>> I wouldn't get too fired up.  The researchers are undergrads, and the
>> bit about microtubles originally came from Penrose, back before the
>> Neurocomputation field had found plausible mechanisms in vector
>> algebra over hyperdimensional parameter spaces.
> 
> Undergrads and amateurs often shake up scientific dogma.

It doesn't happen very often. Laurence Bragg was an undergraduate when 
he and his father invented X-ray diffraction (and got a Nobel
Prize for it) and Christopher Longuett-Higgins was an undergraduate when 
he invented the explanation for bonding in B2H6

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diborane

He didn't get the Nobel Prize that was awarded in that area.

I can't think of any other examples (but I did meet both Laurence Bragg 
and Christopher Longuett-Higgins, so they have stuck in my memory).

>> Given that microtubules are very widely employed in all cells for all
>> manner of purposes, blocking microtubules does not imply that quantum
>> mechanics are or are not involved, as blocking anything that
>> fundamental is likely to affect very many things.
> 
> Evolution seems to use anything that works, even if scientists
> disapprove.

Scientist don't approve or disapprove - they merely observe. You are 
merely guessing.

-- 
Bill Sloman, Sydney