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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: I just fixed the loophole of the Gettier cases Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 12:01:25 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 58 Message-ID: <vc67p5$236hl$1@dont-email.me> References: <vb0lj5$1c1kh$1@dont-email.me> <vb1o9g$1g7lq$1@dont-email.me> <vb3t1j$22k1l$1@dont-email.me> <vb4aq6$2r7ok$1@dont-email.me> <vb6p9v$3aebo$1@dont-email.me> <vb70k8$3b4ub$2@dont-email.me> <vbepsc$q8v6$1@dont-email.me> <vbes94$punj$12@dont-email.me> <24f85bcd40f57685aab93d45f15501178e526d0f@i2pn2.org> <vbh3td$1a0lq$1@dont-email.me> <vbhkej$1c7u5$4@dont-email.me> <2980c2ea93dacce585730f55f07d76e44769e1d4@i2pn2.org> <vbmsbj$2dpff$3@dont-email.me> <4a9a15cff1a1a9f24e19806bbb48a486b9608e9a@i2pn2.org> <vbp3bf$2ssfq$1@dont-email.me> <vbph8r$2vfau$3@dont-email.me> <vbrfeu$3flln$1@dont-email.me> <vbs1jt$3im2p$10@dont-email.me> <vbua7i$615o$1@dont-email.me> <vc03qr$grkl$2@dont-email.me> <vc0rva$p0p3$1@dont-email.me> <vc4v2j$1ma6t$2@dont-email.me> <dfb2ae99d9ea66545c5dde34c4a101fc090f0ebb@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 11:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="011cff868f8ef43a0104f0da338d1f5e"; logging-data="2202165"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ICr/lx0rKH96tgGEfN8HO" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:VxsRLbJUDxE93g/R9PAB8iwBgrs= Bytes: 3661 On 2024-09-15 02:09:50 +0000, Richard Damon said: > On 9/14/24 5:26 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 9/13/2024 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2024-09-13 01:17:15 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>> On 9/12/2024 3:54 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2024-09-11 12:14:53 +0000, olcott said: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/11/2024 2:05 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>>>> On 2024-09-10 13:23:39 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They all have negation as failure, the key element >>>>>>>> required to reject self-contradictory expressions. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The not operator of Prolog is not a part of Horn clause system. It is >>>>>>> not the same as the not operator of ordinary logic. Therefore one nust >>>>>>> be careful with its use and interpretation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have not defined what you mean with "reject" and how that relates >>>>>>> to the behaviour of Prolog programs. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negation_as_failure >>>>>> The failure to prove X from Facts and Rules >>>>>> means that X is untrue yet not necessarily false. >>>>>> >>>>>> The failure to prove X or ~X from Facts and Rules >>>>>> means that X is untrue and unfalse, thus not a >>>>>> truth bearer. >>>>> >>>>> X may represent a real world claim that is either true or false but >>>>> cannot be determined either way with Prolog rules. >>>>> >>>> >>>> When a Prolog Fact is specified that cats are animals >>>> then we can know by Prolog Facts that cats are animals. >>> >>> We know that even if no Prolog fact about that is specified. >>> >> >> Not one single being in the universe understood >> that "cats are animals" was anything but pure gibberish >> until this was specified. > > Nope, because you don't understand how linguistics were developed. > > Sorry, you are just proving your stupidity. > > The words had there meaning long before "logic" was invented. Logic was invented before "cat" and "animal" had meaning in the same language. -- Mikko